use with DFLASH2 drafter possible?

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by ghit72 - opened

hi,
can this
z-lab/Qwen3.8-27B-DFlash2
be used with your finetune?

BottleCapAI org

Hi! Based on our Qwen 3.6 experience it should work well. But we have not tested it for Qwen 3.8 yet.

tried that. my average draft acceptance for 7 positions is around 30% which is borderline useful.. I think MTP is way to go currently, unless somebody trains a new speculator.

BottleCapAI org

Good to know, thanks!

ghit72 changed discussion status to closed
BottleCapAI org

In my measurements, ThinkingCap's acceptance rate is consistent with the stock Qwen 3.8. Where it varies is individual task domains.

Benchmark ThinkingCap accept len ThinkingCap accept rate Base accept len Base accept rate
AIME 2026 3.20 31.4% 3.19 31.3%
GPQA Diamond 3.09 29.9% 3.12 30.3%
LiveCodeBench 2.92 27.5% 2.93 27.6%
GSM8K 4.19 45.5% 4.00 42.9%
τ²-Bench 3.24 32.0% 3.43 34.7%

@vcerny Did you perceive better values when using the stock model?

Adamiros changed discussion status to open

I have not seen any noticeable degradation compared to the base model, and DFlash2 is ~17% faster than MTP in the worst case scenario: prose, temperature=1. I grid-searched the best parameters for both drafters before comparing. I did not test it on long context lengths (60k or higher). That being said, there is always room for improvement and I hope somebody releases a ThinkingCap-calibrated DFlash2 model to squeeze more acceptance out of it.

ok, my tests were very limited, so I am happy to see that vanilla DFlash2 actually makes sense. Thanks!

BottleCapAI org

Thanks for sharing your experience. I'll close this with the fact DFlash performs comparably to the stock Qwen, and will let you know if we decide to release an improved drafter.

Adamiros changed discussion status to closed

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