[0.00 --> 11.78] Okay, it is WAN show time again. It has been a very challenging three weeks. So I was talking to, [11.78 --> 15.88] I don't know, I was talking to a couple of people about it today because it was such an [15.88 --> 20.32] astonishing realization for me that I just had to share it with everybody. [20.32 --> 30.08] In the last three weeks, I have spent only six out of 15 days working on our daily content. [30.74 --> 31.22] Wow. [31.92 --> 34.22] Five days I was out for Tech Showdown. [34.32 --> 34.52] Yeah. [35.00 --> 38.92] Three days I've been basically out for ROG Rig Reboot. [39.04 --> 39.26] Yeah. [39.64 --> 42.48] And then one day I was out for Ultra Wide Festival. [44.18 --> 47.02] So you throw in a few WAN shows. [47.46 --> 47.74] Yeah. [47.74 --> 53.92] And I have actually had almost no time to work on our normal content. [54.96 --> 59.06] So on the one hand, it's great that we're getting any of it done. [59.60 --> 60.32] So that's cool. [60.62 --> 67.18] But on the other hand, I haven't actually gotten to goof around with tech in so long. [68.52 --> 71.14] Okay, the kinds of projects that I have on the go right now. [71.14 --> 77.14] Okay, I have a Threadripper IHS transplant to do. [77.14 --> 80.52] So I want to put the vanity Linus Tech Tips one on a working chip. [80.62 --> 81.12] Nice, yeah. [81.14 --> 84.14] Okay, so yeah, it's nice if I can ever do it. [84.56 --> 86.32] I want to break out the old chiller. [86.70 --> 88.98] Oh, I thought you were saying like these were things you were progressing on. [89.00 --> 90.52] And go, no, I'm making no progress. [90.72 --> 91.84] I want to go sub-zero. [91.84 --> 97.98] I want to do the final office update for the window TV. [98.52 --> 98.96] Okay, yeah. [101.24 --> 101.86] You know what? [101.98 --> 103.14] I should bring up Trello. [103.50 --> 107.10] I should have a look at all the other like crazy stuff that I'm supposed to be doing right now. [107.10 --> 109.40] See, I don't get to play with that kind of technology anymore. [109.58 --> 113.44] But like you need to change your handle, man. [113.44 --> 115.18] Xiaomi Mi Mix 2? [115.88 --> 116.04] Yeah. [116.04 --> 117.60] Okay, got to get my review done of that. [117.86 --> 119.24] Like look at the screen on this thing. [119.68 --> 120.22] It's upside down. [120.50 --> 121.08] Well, yeah. [121.32 --> 121.76] Wow. [121.98 --> 122.40] But look at that. [122.66 --> 123.10] The whole thing. [123.20 --> 123.78] The whole thing's a screen. [124.16 --> 124.40] Yeah. [124.72 --> 125.02] Basically. [125.34 --> 125.54] Yeah. [125.78 --> 126.46] And that's cool. [126.72 --> 127.08] Software. [127.22 --> 127.84] Software is terrible. [128.26 --> 128.84] Software is terrible. [130.20 --> 131.12] Software needs some work. [131.78 --> 133.20] I don't get to play with that kind of tech. [133.38 --> 135.68] But Boiler, I'm not going to say your whole handle. [135.68 --> 137.40] You need to figure out someone else. [137.62 --> 142.88] Dude has been like contributing to the sales open source, which is super cool. [143.16 --> 144.68] And some cool things have happened this week. [144.76 --> 151.74] We had that meeting thing, which I'm sure didn't help at all with your being able to work on content stuff. [152.12 --> 154.30] But float plane progress, right? [154.64 --> 154.88] Yeah. [155.30 --> 155.48] Yeah. [157.04 --> 159.96] Hopefully, dude, if you're out there, take the job. [160.64 --> 161.30] Come work with us. [163.22 --> 163.66] Yeah. [164.02 --> 165.00] That would be great. [165.00 --> 169.00] We need skilled developers. [170.90 --> 171.04] Yeah. [171.56 --> 171.96] Yeah. [172.02 --> 172.82] Other cool stuff. [173.10 --> 174.52] Most insane SSD setup. [175.02 --> 178.32] So six 960 Pros running in RAID 0. [178.46 --> 178.78] Nice. [178.88 --> 179.42] On Threadripper. [179.70 --> 180.00] Nice. [180.36 --> 183.60] Like, actually, that one progress is being made because Ivan's working on it. [183.86 --> 185.38] But anyway, the point is just there's... [185.38 --> 190.92] I think the most insane SSD setup is actually when that guy tied together like 50 of them like six years ago. [191.74 --> 193.38] So I'm just saying. [194.00 --> 194.74] I'm just saying. [194.74 --> 201.04] Like, you might have used newer technology, but like, you said SSD setup in general. [201.04 --> 203.26] So, like, just saying. [205.94 --> 208.50] Anyways, for news this week, we have a bunch of different stuff. [208.62 --> 213.10] One, NCIX Tech Tips is, like, gone? [213.30 --> 214.54] It's in limbo, that's for sure. [214.66 --> 215.14] For now? [215.54 --> 215.88] Mm-hmm. [216.14 --> 216.96] Maybe coming back? [217.04 --> 220.72] Google announces the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL. [220.72 --> 226.02] Uh, and Intel is renaming their Kaby Lake Pentiums. [226.82 --> 227.02] Because... [227.02 --> 227.86] It's super dumb. [228.18 --> 229.56] It's like the dumbest thing ever. [230.52 --> 230.78] Yeah. [230.78 --> 232.08] And, uh... [232.08 --> 232.70] Oh, right. [232.76 --> 233.56] We'll roll the intro now. [234.20 --> 234.56] Boop! [234.56 --> 242.50] It's interesting because we have a few pieces of Intel news in here, which has not been super common for a while. [242.56 --> 243.44] It's all been AMD news. [243.56 --> 245.18] But it's, like, not good stuff. [245.18 --> 247.18] Um... [247.18 --> 248.18] Um... [248.18 --> 252.62] You know, I actually probably wanted to talk about that. [254.30 --> 254.66] Because... [254.66 --> 256.06] Yeah, actually, you know what? [256.08 --> 258.68] Yeah, I do have some stuff to say about that. [258.80 --> 259.90] Are you going to talk about this, by the way? [260.32 --> 260.86] Um... [260.86 --> 261.36] Yeah, I will. [261.52 --> 261.68] Okay. [262.44 --> 263.18] Um... [263.18 --> 264.48] Are you doing anything? [265.42 --> 266.32] Oh, yeah, yeah. [266.38 --> 266.84] Sorry, Max. [266.92 --> 268.16] I'll do that for you. [268.28 --> 269.14] I totally forgot. [269.50 --> 272.76] I remoted into my computer, and then I just didn't do it. [272.76 --> 274.30] I tried not locking your computer. [274.30 --> 275.30] Nope. [276.18 --> 277.96] My computer uses a real password. [279.22 --> 280.06] Yep, I know. [280.06 --> 281.10] Unlike everything else. [284.36 --> 285.08] Sorry, guys. [285.14 --> 285.72] Hold on a second. [286.50 --> 287.62] Okay, I just saved to V3. [288.16 --> 288.94] And you're good. [289.30 --> 289.66] Okay. [290.98 --> 291.94] All right. [293.30 --> 295.14] So, you know what? [295.34 --> 296.94] Why don't we tackle... [298.04 --> 300.10] Let's do the dumb Intel news first. [300.22 --> 302.18] And then let's do the dumb... [302.18 --> 302.68] Is there cool? [302.68 --> 304.76] Dumb reaction to Intel news. [305.36 --> 308.44] Because, like, honestly, I was pretty... [308.44 --> 309.44] Um... [309.44 --> 318.18] I was pretty frustrated with the community's reaction to certain aspects of Coffee Lake. [318.52 --> 320.72] And the launch and our review of it. [320.78 --> 320.98] Okay. [320.98 --> 321.94] Um... [321.94 --> 322.26] Because... [322.26 --> 323.10] I haven't looked into this. [323.24 --> 323.86] It was... [323.86 --> 325.48] It was pretty dumb. [325.84 --> 326.02] Uh... [326.02 --> 326.98] So, NumLock21. [327.20 --> 328.02] Posted on the forum. [328.18 --> 330.22] The original article here is from TechPowerUp. [331.50 --> 331.90] And... [331.90 --> 332.90] I'll get it in Twitch chat right now. [333.50 --> 333.90] Rats. [334.54 --> 335.12] Hold on. [336.54 --> 337.26] Um... [337.26 --> 337.98] Um... [337.98 --> 338.98] Um... [339.78 --> 339.98] Um... [339.98 --> 340.98] Um... [340.98 --> 346.74] Yeah! [346.74 --> 346.94] Yeah! [347.74 --> 348.66] All right. [349.74 --> 356.68] Intel to rebrand Pentium as Pentium Gold. [357.44 --> 357.90] Oh. [358.56 --> 359.28] Oh. [359.74 --> 361.22] Oh, yes. [361.74 --> 362.86] Ah, yes! [363.62 --> 364.62] Wait, why? [364.62 --> 365.18] Okay. [365.38 --> 368.54] So, it's all part of, like, an overarching stupid thing. [368.60 --> 368.82] Hold on. [368.86 --> 371.18] I'm just gonna turn the apertures, uh... [371.18 --> 371.50] More... [371.50 --> 372.56] More open a bit. [372.68 --> 373.04] One second. [373.36 --> 373.70] What? [373.80 --> 374.70] I'm so confused. [374.80 --> 375.92] Is this only for the high... [375.92 --> 376.36] Oh. [378.26 --> 378.66] Sorry. [378.76 --> 379.46] One second, guys. [379.64 --> 380.58] This is kind of silly. [381.86 --> 382.12] Okay. [382.28 --> 383.08] I think we just needed... [383.08 --> 384.06] So, low-power... [384.06 --> 384.48] We just needed more aperture. [384.74 --> 389.22] Low-power Gemini Lake SoCs will bear the Pentium Silver brand. [390.82 --> 391.86] Besides Celeron. [391.86 --> 394.50] Is there Pentium Bronze? [394.84 --> 396.40] I don't see a Pentium Bronze. [397.58 --> 400.44] So, there's Pentium Silver and Pentium Gold. [400.64 --> 403.86] So, basically, as far as I can tell... [404.92 --> 405.64] Why are you chilling? [406.48 --> 417.30] Intel hired some kind of new, like, senior VP of branding or marketing or, like, product naming or whatever that position is. [417.30 --> 420.52] Where you actually make the decision about what to call the product. [420.52 --> 423.16] And they did the unthinkable. [423.50 --> 427.34] They managed to make Intel's naming scheme worse. [428.04 --> 428.96] It's impressive. [429.32 --> 430.72] You know, like, to give them props. [430.98 --> 431.16] Yeah. [431.34 --> 432.24] They found a way. [432.58 --> 433.06] Because... [433.06 --> 433.82] They had the will. [433.96 --> 434.64] They had... [434.64 --> 435.30] Intel... [435.30 --> 436.08] They were determined. [436.20 --> 438.90] Intel hasn't named for a consumer. [439.14 --> 439.34] Okay? [439.42 --> 442.88] Like, I'm not talking about, you know, Zeon or Itanium. [443.74 --> 444.30] Sculptrail. [444.30 --> 445.98] Itanium sounds pretty cool. [446.14 --> 446.60] Itanium does sound cool. [446.60 --> 448.32] The problem with Sculptrail is that it's a codename. [448.72 --> 450.92] Intel's codenames are so good. [451.02 --> 451.22] Yeah. [451.40 --> 452.02] A lot of the time. [452.10 --> 452.76] Sometimes they're dumb. [453.54 --> 453.94] Sculptrail. [454.06 --> 455.04] That was so cool. [455.86 --> 456.26] Bontrail. [456.40 --> 457.22] Oh, my God. [457.28 --> 459.36] I mean, even stuff like Alpine Ridge. [459.62 --> 459.82] Yeah. [459.88 --> 461.12] Like, that's pretty cool. [461.22 --> 461.70] It'd be like, yeah. [461.80 --> 463.60] I want, like, an Intel Alpine Ridge. [464.16 --> 464.50] Hell yeah. [464.62 --> 465.94] That's a Thunderbolt controller, by the way. [466.02 --> 466.50] It ended up... [466.50 --> 468.12] I mean, even Thunderbolt has a cool name. [468.36 --> 469.92] But on the CPU side, okay? [470.42 --> 470.78] So back... [470.78 --> 471.80] Go way back in the day. [471.92 --> 473.66] It was, like, the 286. [473.72 --> 474.76] And the 386. [474.82 --> 476.04] And the 486. [476.08 --> 476.76] And all that made sense. [476.76 --> 478.56] And I know there are numbers, but people remember this. [478.56 --> 479.62] You got your generation. [480.18 --> 480.32] Yeah. [480.32 --> 482.18] And you got your instruction set. [482.26 --> 482.48] Okay? [483.46 --> 483.82] X86. [483.82 --> 484.40] Pretty straightforward. [485.20 --> 485.48] Cool. [485.98 --> 489.76] Then they got to 5 and they were like, no, let's not do 586. [490.00 --> 491.16] Let's go Pentium. [491.52 --> 492.20] And you know what? [492.40 --> 493.12] Not bad. [493.52 --> 498.16] Maybe part of it is that Pentium has basically existed since I've, like, had a computer. [498.50 --> 499.54] Well, no, actually, that's not true. [499.60 --> 502.76] We had a 386 that we then upgraded to a 486. [502.76 --> 503.98] I can understand that change, though. [504.08 --> 506.34] You're going from slightly less ultra hardcore. [506.60 --> 506.78] Yeah. [507.30 --> 508.26] You're going... [508.26 --> 511.00] And then you go generations of Pentium. [511.24 --> 511.48] Okay? [511.96 --> 512.96] And then Celeron. [512.96 --> 513.78] I was like, yeah, sure. [513.92 --> 514.18] Okay. [514.68 --> 515.12] Celeron. [515.22 --> 515.52] Why not? [516.20 --> 518.06] Then came Core. [519.82 --> 522.82] What? [524.32 --> 526.20] If it was actually how many cores they had. [526.34 --> 526.94] Then sure. [527.12 --> 527.34] Yeah. [527.64 --> 531.62] So if a Core 2 was a dual core. [531.88 --> 532.10] Yeah. [532.58 --> 534.70] But yeah, but then you're backed into a corner. [534.82 --> 537.84] Because what are you going to call the next generation? [538.20 --> 540.32] You would have to call it the Core 2 2. [540.52 --> 541.74] Do you remember Core 2 Quad, though? [541.74 --> 545.06] Yes, Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad. [545.36 --> 546.80] So you would have to say... [546.80 --> 548.30] I mean, you still have to do it. [548.48 --> 553.74] You would have to say, yeah, I've got an Intel Core 2 Duo dual core CP... [554.88 --> 558.74] Bad. [559.44 --> 559.92] No. [559.92 --> 565.58] And then you got these indecipherable numbers at the end of them. [565.68 --> 570.22] And in Intel's defense, there is a legend on their site for how to decipher them. [570.34 --> 570.50] Yeah. [571.20 --> 575.68] But, you know, many of the numbers, like, never ended up getting incremented at all. [575.86 --> 578.22] So they might as well have just not had them. [578.22 --> 581.94] And Intel plans out their product roadmap so far in advance. [582.08 --> 589.36] Like, do they really need to leave, you know, like a 50 there just in case they need to use it? [589.52 --> 591.06] Like, they never do it. [591.94 --> 593.02] So anyway, anyway. [593.18 --> 594.90] So we've been stuck with Core. [595.36 --> 597.90] Core i3, Core i5, Core i7 for a long time. [597.92 --> 606.70] And then at least Core i9 made sense in the sense that it was a continuation of something that's been established over the last 10 years. [606.70 --> 610.82] If you want to show off how ridiculous this is, just show our Intel naming videos on TechWiki. [611.14 --> 611.40] Yeah. [611.54 --> 613.36] I think it's got, like, 6 million views. [613.96 --> 620.68] Like, what is Core i7 videos? [623.04 --> 623.44] Yeah. [623.72 --> 624.24] Hold on here. [624.26 --> 624.88] We'll bring this up. [626.72 --> 627.48] 7 million. [627.66 --> 629.74] Like, it keeps on trucking, this one. [630.50 --> 633.78] What is a Core i3, Core i5, and Core i7 as fast as possible? [633.92 --> 634.04] Yeah. [634.12 --> 635.38] 7 million freaking views. [635.38 --> 636.84] What is a Core i9? [636.90 --> 638.54] That's got a million since three months ago. [638.66 --> 642.28] Like, people, like, clearly understand it a little better now than they used to. [642.58 --> 647.20] But at least Core i9 had the advantage of continuity. [647.62 --> 650.32] And I think people aren't shopping for it as much. [651.00 --> 651.66] It's too expensive. [651.76 --> 654.66] And the other issue, too, though, is that they did kind of screw it up. [654.66 --> 657.44] Because if Core i9 had simply been high-end desktop. [658.22 --> 658.64] Yeah. [659.00 --> 659.58] Then, sure. [659.72 --> 664.92] But they've got Core i7s and Core i5s on the same platform. [664.92 --> 666.40] And, oh, man. [666.40 --> 666.42] And, oh, man. [667.94 --> 668.38] 7740K. [668.70 --> 669.20] Or X? [669.26 --> 669.82] Is it an X? [669.86 --> 670.60] I can't even remember. [670.70 --> 671.10] But whatever. [671.78 --> 678.88] The, like, the Kaby Lake chips on X299, they were super dumb when X299 launched. [679.20 --> 683.26] Now, they are, like, super, super mega ultra dumb. [683.82 --> 686.28] Because now that Coffee Lake has launched. [688.34 --> 688.74] 7740X. [688.82 --> 693.08] You would only be buying one of those if you were just a complete idiot. [693.58 --> 698.80] Or you were a professional overclocker looking for, like, per core records or something. [698.80 --> 701.88] Because Coffee Lake is overclocking pretty well. [701.98 --> 702.64] 5 gigahertz. [702.80 --> 704.04] It looks pretty attainable. [704.54 --> 708.72] And not just for, like, people who are sorting through trays of CPUs. [708.74 --> 709.38] So that's pretty cool. [709.44 --> 709.70] Anyway. [710.58 --> 711.36] Coming back to Pentium. [711.36 --> 716.22] So they brought back the Pentium brand after having gotten rid of it for many years. [716.40 --> 718.90] And they assigned it to their cheapo products. [719.44 --> 720.04] And I was kind of like. [721.42 --> 723.38] Like, that feels a little bit like. [723.86 --> 724.64] It's kind of sad. [724.96 --> 725.20] Yeah. [725.24 --> 728.16] It's, like, reusing what used to be, like, top of the line. [728.24 --> 729.20] Like, cream of the cream. [729.62 --> 732.66] And, like, going for, like, a nostalgia sale to someone who. [733.20 --> 738.30] Like, I guess in the sense it's, like, if it's competitive with Intel's, like, old CPUs. [738.30 --> 742.78] Like, you'd have to be running something old enough to be a Pentium for it to be an upgrade. [742.94 --> 743.16] Right. [743.34 --> 744.36] Maybe that was the rationale. [744.52 --> 745.06] I don't know. [745.38 --> 745.82] That's fine. [746.94 --> 748.12] Like, at least they didn't. [748.70 --> 751.98] At least they didn't pull an AMD where they brought back the FX branding. [752.36 --> 752.68] Oh. [752.84 --> 756.46] For, like, a super, super mainstream product. [756.46 --> 758.92] Because remember, guys. [759.32 --> 760.24] Or maybe not remember. [760.38 --> 761.90] Like, I'm going to let you know, young people. [762.50 --> 764.20] FX used to be $1,000. [764.56 --> 764.74] Yeah. [764.88 --> 765.06] Period. [765.42 --> 767.52] You didn't buy an FX for less than $1,000. [767.84 --> 768.18] That was it. [768.24 --> 768.96] It was the cream of the cream. [769.42 --> 777.32] And then they brought back FX as, like, super ultra mega rebranded stuff we had. [779.08 --> 779.94] It sounds cool. [780.02 --> 780.88] So it might sell some stuff. [780.96 --> 781.20] Yeah. [781.28 --> 781.66] Exactly. [781.66 --> 785.88] So anyway, back to gold. [787.12 --> 794.68] As far as I can tell, Intel brought in some kind of rebranding executive who renamed all [794.68 --> 802.82] these Zeons according to this bronze, silver, gold, platinum naming scheme. [803.64 --> 807.62] And it makes no sense at all. [807.72 --> 810.78] I'd love to see internal numbers to see if anything changed when they did that. [810.78 --> 811.60] No, of course not. [812.14 --> 812.54] Oh, I know. [812.86 --> 815.88] But, like, I would like to be able to represent my argument with facts. [815.90 --> 817.24] And it's so confusing. [817.38 --> 823.14] Because, again, Intel's server products, the product names were a little confusing. [823.38 --> 826.76] Like something, like a 2687W. [827.50 --> 829.68] But you need such specific things. [829.98 --> 830.18] Yeah. [830.26 --> 831.44] It doesn't really matter if it's confusing. [831.52 --> 832.44] You're going to arc them all anyways. [832.44 --> 836.92] And if you know what a W is, a W is like a high power workstationship. [837.10 --> 837.82] Then you'd know. [837.90 --> 844.38] It's not going to have the same, like, max core count as the ones that are designed for, like, tons of virtualization or whatever else. [844.38 --> 846.36] And it's going to have, like, higher boost clocks. [846.42 --> 847.36] It's probably got a higher TDP. [847.48 --> 850.18] Like, you could kind of piece it together if you were somewhat familiar with the lineup. [850.18 --> 858.60] Now, like, a gold could be a high performance SKU that fits in this socket or that one or, like, this dual platform one. [858.64 --> 860.18] It has to do with, like, the raw performance. [860.34 --> 862.14] But the features get left behind. [862.14 --> 867.28] And so now we're just, like, going to just tack gold onto stuff. [869.34 --> 871.62] Like, I just, it's just frustrating. [872.88 --> 878.56] So the name change comes with a refreshed case badge and a slightly modified box design. [879.18 --> 881.90] And it will be effective November 2, 2017. [882.16 --> 888.26] So basically, gold, which is, I don't want to say always tacky, but. [888.56 --> 889.76] It's pretty much always tacky. [889.80 --> 890.88] Usually tacky. [890.88 --> 894.74] Unless it's a rank in a competitive video game, it's tacky. [895.44 --> 896.62] Well, now, hold on. [896.86 --> 899.22] Gold and black can look pretty good. [899.46 --> 901.08] I mean as, like, a product naming thing. [901.34 --> 902.56] Oh, oh, yeah, that. [902.66 --> 904.66] No, that, like, how dead is that? [904.88 --> 908.28] Like, when's the last time anyone did, like, bronze, silver, gold? [908.52 --> 909.92] You can use gold tastefully. [910.04 --> 911.60] It just has to be used properly. [911.70 --> 916.42] Like, remember when we were doing the support tiers on the forum, which, incidentally, are bronze, silver, and gold? [917.04 --> 918.94] We were talking about it, and I was just like, you know what? [918.96 --> 920.40] I just don't have time to think about this. [920.40 --> 921.84] Let's just do bronze, silver, and gold. [923.86 --> 924.54] But, like. [925.20 --> 926.66] But, Intel, what's your excuse? [927.12 --> 928.86] I think ours is also pretty easy. [929.04 --> 932.60] There isn't any confusing, like, it doesn't actually follow the features. [932.74 --> 934.02] It only follows raw performance. [934.14 --> 934.58] Like, no. [935.08 --> 937.56] There's really not much else you get. [937.74 --> 937.90] Yeah. [937.90 --> 939.52] You get a different colored badge. [939.58 --> 940.96] You get access to a better forum. [941.08 --> 942.06] Thank you for your contribution. [942.22 --> 943.30] That's ultimately what it is. [944.58 --> 944.98] So. [945.78 --> 946.66] Not a better forum. [946.86 --> 948.40] Everything happens in the bronze forum. [948.92 --> 949.56] Spoiler alert. [949.78 --> 950.02] Yeah. [950.02 --> 955.02] There's a counting to 10,000 thread in the bronze forum, and the silver and gold forums are pretty much cobwebs. [955.02 --> 965.14] Hey, do you guys want to get some really cool insight into the way that YouTube does or doesn't deliver video notifications to subscribers? [966.18 --> 967.26] This is pretty cool. [967.26 --> 968.64] So, hold on. [968.70 --> 972.58] I'm actually going to load up another tab here to give you guys some context for this. [972.90 --> 973.50] This is pretty cool. [973.86 --> 977.10] And I have some good Intel news in a moment here. [977.38 --> 979.16] But, here, let's go ahead. [979.22 --> 981.10] Let's bring up some analytics for this bad boy. [982.76 --> 984.94] Surprisingly, a lot of people said no. [985.80 --> 986.30] About what? [986.70 --> 987.74] Wanting to see this. [988.56 --> 988.82] Really? [988.98 --> 991.10] There was definitely quite a few people that said yes as well. [991.30 --> 991.50] Okay. [992.06 --> 992.62] Well, whatever. [992.74 --> 993.18] It's cool. [993.30 --> 993.76] You'll like it. [993.82 --> 994.32] It's probably trolls. [994.32 --> 997.74] So, here's the dashboard for one of our recent releases. [998.06 --> 1003.82] So, you can have a look at what a video might typically do in the first hour. [1005.06 --> 1009.44] So, this is our Core i7 8700K review. [1010.26 --> 1012.26] Sitting at 690,000 views. [1012.46 --> 1016.68] And in the first hour, it did about 84,000 followed by 72,000. [1016.94 --> 1018.26] This is a weird launch time. [1018.36 --> 1020.80] So, this decay curve looks a little bit different than it normally would. [1020.86 --> 1022.86] But it's also not totally atypical. [1023.00 --> 1023.14] Yeah. [1023.56 --> 1024.18] All right. [1024.32 --> 1026.02] So, in the last 60 minutes... [1026.02 --> 1026.12] Nine. [1026.74 --> 1026.96] Woo! [1027.42 --> 1028.16] There goes a fly. [1028.38 --> 1030.48] It did about 3,400 views. [1030.66 --> 1031.64] Oh, you guys can't see that. [1031.72 --> 1031.90] Whatever. [1032.04 --> 1032.92] Take my word for it. [1032.94 --> 1034.12] 3,400 views or so. [1034.24 --> 1034.44] Okay. [1035.08 --> 1039.82] So, YouTube's algorithm is so... [1039.82 --> 1041.28] I don't want to use the word smart. [1041.70 --> 1042.00] Damn. [1042.00 --> 1059.24] But what I'll say is it is so aggressive about targeting content that it thinks might be me trying to use my subscriber base as a way to communicate with the people that watch Linus Tech Tips. [1059.24 --> 1060.94] It's so sensitive to that. [1060.94 --> 1061.64] It's so sensitive to that. [1061.64 --> 1062.94] That check this out. [1062.94 --> 1066.04] The WAN show stream announcement video. [1066.04 --> 1072.24] I specifically uploaded at the same time every week with the same title every week. [1072.24 --> 1083.08] And YouTube's algorithm has got this thing crushed to the point where in the first hour, it is probably going to do like... [1083.08 --> 1084.20] Let's see. [1084.28 --> 1085.88] We're only doing about 140 views. [1085.88 --> 1088.36] It's like a length of an hour, I think. [1088.54 --> 1088.74] Yeah. [1089.12 --> 1090.30] Something along those lines. [1090.44 --> 1095.76] It has only managed to do about 3,600 views in the last 20 minutes or so. [1096.70 --> 1097.82] Pretty crazy, hey? [1097.84 --> 1098.40] That's nuts. [1098.58 --> 1100.04] So, you see... [1100.04 --> 1100.54] Okay. [1100.66 --> 1101.96] This is an extreme example. [1102.26 --> 1103.30] And this is something where... [1103.30 --> 1103.76] You know what? [1104.60 --> 1107.16] Quite honestly, I could name it something else. [1107.62 --> 1113.42] And that would help more people get notifications for it. [1113.42 --> 1123.88] But intentionally, I'm feeding into the algorithm here, allowing the algorithm to take the people who aren't interested in WAN show and just not pump them a notification. [1124.10 --> 1127.28] Like, I'm okay with that because we just do it because we've always done it. [1127.70 --> 1131.28] And if it boosts the live viewers a little bit, then, like, great. [1131.34 --> 1131.90] They know we're live. [1131.94 --> 1132.36] That's cool. [1132.66 --> 1136.98] For the people that do rely on that notification, if we don't put it up, some people do miss the WAN show. [1138.56 --> 1139.76] But what this is is... [1139.76 --> 1141.50] I think there's also a fair amount of this, to be clear. [1141.50 --> 1147.16] I'm gladmax1 in the chat said, I see the YouTube video, I ignore it, and I hit the Twitch bookmark. [1147.50 --> 1149.72] So that might be part of why it gets buried. [1150.28 --> 1150.96] Either way. [1151.34 --> 1155.60] But that's one of the reasons that we continue to do it, just in case people are lying on it. [1155.60 --> 1168.70] But this is an extreme example of the way that YouTube does manipulate the way that it propagates new video information to someone who is subscribed. [1170.70 --> 1172.70] And it's one of those things that's frustrating. [1172.82 --> 1174.82] It's one of the reasons that we're starting Floatplane. [1174.94 --> 1178.22] And I was just kind of inspired to talk about it for some reason. [1178.30 --> 1179.24] I don't remember why anymore. [1179.24 --> 1181.16] But we can move on to our next topic. [1183.44 --> 1184.16] Alright. [1185.16 --> 1192.60] So I was actually a little disappointed in our viewers' reaction to the Coffee Lake video. [1192.60 --> 1208.26] There was an astonishing amount of ignorance in some of the comments with respect to how we would have manipulated what benchmarks we used. [1208.52 --> 1211.88] And the problem is that the arguments just don't even make any sense. [1211.88 --> 1216.50] Like someone was upset that we didn't include the Ryzen 7 1800X. [1217.32 --> 1221.30] As though we were trying to conceal AMD's superiority. [1222.18 --> 1224.32] And we didn't want AMD to seem like a better value. [1224.72 --> 1226.80] The 1800X is not a very good value. [1226.80 --> 1229.56] The best value Ryzen 7 is the 1700. [1233.70 --> 1235.18] This 1800X is what? [1235.28 --> 1237.64] Like 200 MHz higher than the 1700X? [1237.64 --> 1248.28] How would that hurt AMD's value prop to throw in a processor that costs $100 more and clock 200 MHz higher? [1248.82 --> 1255.54] How are we hurting AMD's appearance of value by choosing one of their chips that is a better value? [1256.44 --> 1258.78] Now one thing that we didn't discuss in our video. [1258.92 --> 1261.62] And honestly the funny thing is this like barely even came up. [1261.62 --> 1272.58] People are so fixated on comparisons that they don't like and or don't understand or whatever else that they didn't even notice this one. [1273.22 --> 1276.66] What we should have discussed was some of the differences in platform cost. [1276.84 --> 1280.40] Like the fact that a B350 board is cheaper than a Z370 board. [1280.40 --> 1293.66] But just the number of people that are like when we release a video that's positive about Intel they're like wow you guys sure changed your tune so fast about being sponsored by them. [1294.32 --> 1294.66] No. [1295.10 --> 1301.86] We changed our tune because they released a different product that's different than the one we said we didn't like. [1301.86 --> 1312.52] It's called looking at what's in front of you and evaluating it instead of just going in having already decided the answer. [1319.04 --> 1319.68] Yeah. [1319.68 --> 1330.36] Is it like is it as bad as the oh my god they didn't benchmark with wow why can't I think of the name of it right now? [1331.08 --> 1332.24] Future of OpenGL. [1333.10 --> 1333.46] Vulkan? [1334.46 --> 1337.38] Um yeah hard to say. [1337.80 --> 1338.86] Hard to say. [1339.34 --> 1340.14] But anyway. [1341.22 --> 1346.76] Yeah apparently we're doing damage control over Intel forcing customers to buy a new motherboard on the same socket. [1346.76 --> 1348.92] I wonder how much Intel paid him for this. [1348.92 --> 1349.92] Nothing. [1350.16 --> 1350.44] Nice. [1350.72 --> 1353.24] So the way that that works. [1353.24 --> 1354.10] Grade A 10 out of 10 comment. [1354.18 --> 1358.00] And unfortunately I can't get anyone to go on the record about it. [1358.40 --> 1360.58] Um so I can't say who my source is. [1360.92 --> 1368.66] But what happened was Intel designed their platform for two generations of CPUs the same way they have for the last 10 years. [1370.66 --> 1371.52] That's how it went. [1371.64 --> 1372.66] That's how it goes down. [1372.80 --> 1373.80] You cannot like it. [1374.12 --> 1375.62] And that's totally cool. [1375.62 --> 1376.96] And I totally get it. [1376.96 --> 1380.00] Um but they designed it for two generations. [1380.00 --> 1383.50] They did not design it for a six core processor. [1383.50 --> 1387.56] And there were physical things that were redesigned. [1388.56 --> 1391.28] Could Intel have made it work? [1391.48 --> 1396.98] Off the record I've got indications that they might have been able to. [1397.84 --> 1399.66] In fact probably could have. [1399.66 --> 1406.42] But would it have been a janky solution that might not have had the reliability that Intel's known for? [1406.98 --> 1408.22] In all likelihood yes. [1409.28 --> 1412.76] So was this partially a marketing decision? [1413.02 --> 1413.50] Possibly. [1413.50 --> 1421.58] Personally I'm pretty annoyed that a Z370 for example cannot hold a Skylake or a Kaby Lake chip. [1421.98 --> 1428.24] But I totally understand why Intel wouldn't want to put their stellar reputation for reliability on the line. [1428.46 --> 1436.48] By allowing you to put a new Coffee Lake chip in your Z270 board without having fully validated it. [1436.48 --> 1438.44] And here's another thing you guys have to understand. [1439.18 --> 1450.80] Just because Intel has a spec and just because like it should work doesn't mean that every motherboard manufacturer out there built properly to the spec. [1451.44 --> 1454.44] It doesn't mean that every SKU will work. [1455.18 --> 1461.48] And when you're someone like Intel if you say it's going to work it is supposed to work. [1461.48 --> 1468.96] Yeah and like building to spec a lot of the times you make product differentiation by finding ways to not build to spec. [1469.54 --> 1476.80] You end up making a lot more people mad by trying to accommodate them sometimes than you do by just going nope forget it. [1477.20 --> 1477.82] It doesn't work. [1478.20 --> 1482.74] Because something that you guys are probably missing here you look at the motivation you go well it's probably money grabbing. [1483.18 --> 1486.24] So let's look at something like Intel Optane which they opted. [1488.24 --> 1488.80] Wow. [1488.80 --> 1494.28] Which they opted to support on only Z270 was it if I recall correctly? [1495.14 --> 1495.74] Optane on. [1495.74 --> 1496.82] It's been a while since I've been on WAN. [1497.00 --> 1497.64] That was painful. [1497.88 --> 1498.64] Yeah I'm sorry. [1498.86 --> 1499.02] Oh. [1500.28 --> 1501.96] Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. [1503.30 --> 1504.92] Optane I'm looking to upgrade. [1505.34 --> 1507.52] Upgrade using essentially an M.2. [1508.04 --> 1509.00] I want to know if not. [1509.02 --> 1510.52] It's like I lost my pun tolerance. [1511.22 --> 1515.48] Okay I think it is only 200 series. [1515.48 --> 1518.96] Blah blah blah blah blah blah. [1519.64 --> 1523.74] Hold on there's a there's a thing on Puget Optane. [1524.32 --> 1525.36] Yeah okay cool. [1525.76 --> 1527.36] So it's only supported on Z270. [1527.66 --> 1530.30] So the reason for that it's just an M.2 stick. [1530.58 --> 1531.48] That's all it is. [1531.56 --> 1533.94] It's an SSD using the M.2 standard. [1534.50 --> 1537.90] So feasibly Intel could have supported it on Z170. [1538.42 --> 1543.50] And a lot of people might look at this and go well their motivation must be money grubbing. [1543.84 --> 1545.70] They just want me to run out and buy a new motherboard. [1546.42 --> 1551.74] Do you really think anyone at Intel is stupid enough to think that anybody's going to go buy a new motherboard for Optane? [1551.74 --> 1555.68] If you had enough money to buy a new motherboard you would buy a boot SSD. [1555.92 --> 1557.06] You'd buy a dedicated SSD. [1557.32 --> 1558.80] Optane is a value solution. [1559.46 --> 1560.84] It's not money grubbing. [1561.02 --> 1565.50] If they were money grubbing they would shoehorn in the support. [1566.06 --> 1567.48] Not validate it fully. [1567.86 --> 1569.24] And just let people buy it. [1569.40 --> 1570.40] And if it works it works. [1570.48 --> 1571.38] And if it doesn't it doesn't. [1571.60 --> 1572.18] Like Ubisoft. [1572.88 --> 1576.36] Because the reason that they decided not to support it on Z170. [1576.52 --> 1576.92] And this is. [1577.04 --> 1578.46] I'm not going to quote my source. [1578.92 --> 1579.82] This is kind of off the record. [1579.90 --> 1581.76] I'm actually not even sure if I should be talking about it. [1581.96 --> 1584.50] Was that depending on the implementation. [1586.16 --> 1589.32] And you got to remember this isn't just like enthusiasts. [1589.80 --> 1592.04] You know gaming boards or whatever. [1592.16 --> 1596.24] This is across the like Dells and Acer's and Lenovo's of the world. [1596.24 --> 1602.40] The implementation on Z170 of M.2 might not have been up to snuff. [1602.62 --> 1607.90] And they can't rely on these guys to roll out UEFI BIOS updates to build in the support. [1608.06 --> 1609.54] Because that would be required. [1609.76 --> 1612.68] So it would end up being a very confusing message. [1614.22 --> 1619.16] If they wanted to sell more units they would want a wider install base of supported products. [1619.70 --> 1620.06] Duh. [1620.78 --> 1621.78] Don't you think? [1623.66 --> 1624.54] So anyway. [1624.54 --> 1628.82] I'm not necessarily happy about everything they did here. [1628.96 --> 1632.00] But you also have to understand that it's not always as simple as like. [1632.48 --> 1633.54] They're bad people. [1633.74 --> 1634.62] And they just want your money. [1635.12 --> 1636.08] They do just want your money. [1636.18 --> 1636.68] They're a business. [1637.24 --> 1638.50] But also understand. [1638.64 --> 1639.16] So does AMD. [1639.70 --> 1640.48] So does Nvidia. [1641.04 --> 1642.12] None of them are your friends. [1645.54 --> 1646.02] Um. [1647.44 --> 1647.86] Right. [1647.98 --> 1651.60] That was going to bring us really well into the whole off spec thing. [1651.60 --> 1652.60] Okay. [1652.60 --> 1652.66] Okay. [1652.66 --> 1656.54] Why are people getting different Coffee Lake performance results? [1656.76 --> 1660.52] So this was inspired by a tweet from Jay's Two Cents. [1660.60 --> 1663.04] And was originally posted on the forum by. [1663.34 --> 1663.52] Oh. [1663.70 --> 1663.98] Dang it. [1664.04 --> 1664.46] There's no. [1664.68 --> 1666.58] There's no who posted it on the forum thing. [1666.66 --> 1667.10] James. [1669.02 --> 1669.46] Um. [1669.46 --> 1671.34] Was originally posted on the forum by. [1671.34 --> 1674.20] Oh man. [1675.42 --> 1675.70] Oh. [1675.84 --> 1676.00] Oh. [1676.04 --> 1677.78] This was just a discussion in our own thread. [1677.94 --> 1678.18] Okay. [1678.24 --> 1678.62] Well fine. [1678.70 --> 1679.20] Fine James. [1679.72 --> 1679.90] Uh. [1679.90 --> 1680.64] But here's Jay's. [1681.04 --> 1681.76] Here's Jay's tweet. [1682.22 --> 1682.40] Yeah. [1682.48 --> 1683.74] I showed that in Twitch chat too. [1683.88 --> 1684.04] Cool. [1684.04 --> 1688.46] So you can see that our number and Jay's number are pretty close. [1688.66 --> 1688.80] Yeah. [1689.00 --> 1691.56] But then Paul's is a chunk down. [1691.86 --> 1694.10] And then Kyle's is even further down from that. [1694.18 --> 1695.40] And there's a lot of differentiation. [1695.66 --> 1696.96] This is a significant difference. [1697.08 --> 1697.40] Oh yeah. [1697.40 --> 1700.72] With us and Jay sitting around the 1500-50 range. [1701.24 --> 1705.90] And Paul and Kyle being in the 1400s and 1200s. [1706.62 --> 1708.42] So one of the theories. [1709.90 --> 1710.54] And this was. [1710.74 --> 1713.68] Kyle's chip compared to Jay's chip is almost a 300 point difference. [1713.68 --> 1713.90] Yeah. [1714.04 --> 1714.62] And that is a. [1714.70 --> 1716.08] That is a massive. [1716.08 --> 1716.52] That's huge. [1716.58 --> 1717.48] Difference in Cinebench. [1717.84 --> 1718.40] That's like. [1718.60 --> 1718.90] You know. [1718.94 --> 1722.00] One of your cores isn't working level of difference in Cinebench. [1722.60 --> 1723.04] So. [1723.04 --> 1723.42] Um. [1724.14 --> 1725.00] I can't. [1725.08 --> 1727.14] I can't believe he goes by Gabe N Jr. [1727.28 --> 1727.80] On the forum. [1728.86 --> 1729.38] But. [1730.34 --> 1730.86] Anyway. [1731.02 --> 1732.46] Anthony from our team. [1732.94 --> 1733.26] Uh. [1733.26 --> 1738.20] Was talking about how Gamers Nexus had found that their gigabyte board was giving them less voltage than specified. [1738.96 --> 1739.44] And. [1739.86 --> 1743.20] He was wondering if maybe ASUS did the same thing in the opposite direction. [1743.20 --> 1745.36] To give us better results. [1745.92 --> 1746.36] So. [1746.84 --> 1748.56] It seems like there's a known issue. [1749.60 --> 1754.12] That has to do with the boards not being fully tuned for coffee lake yet. [1754.30 --> 1757.06] Where the voltage is being applied might be affecting performance. [1757.52 --> 1761.26] So we actually have a review coming on the MSI Vortex G25. [1761.26 --> 1763.96] Where our original script. [1763.96 --> 1764.68] Um. [1764.68 --> 1766.78] That I reviewed with Alex a couple of days ago. [1766.98 --> 1769.92] Had this comment on how when we stress tested it. [1770.24 --> 1771.26] It would run at. [1771.26 --> 1771.56] Oh. [1771.64 --> 1773.78] Four point whatever gigahertz turbo for like. [1775.06 --> 1775.98] I don't know. [1776.28 --> 1776.98] Three seconds. [1776.98 --> 1778.92] And then it would drop to like 3.2. [1779.32 --> 1779.80] Whoa. [1779.96 --> 1781.00] So we got a new BIOS. [1781.50 --> 1781.98] Fixed. [1782.80 --> 1786.58] So it looks like this launch might have been a little rushed. [1786.74 --> 1786.98] Now. [1787.54 --> 1790.80] Unfortunately we weren't able to comment on that in our coffee lake review. [1790.80 --> 1793.50] Because as a general rule. [1793.70 --> 1795.02] We have made a habit. [1795.70 --> 1798.56] Of using only one particular brand of motherboard. [1798.88 --> 1799.98] For our launch reviews. [1800.82 --> 1802.36] Because we have found. [1802.52 --> 1806.94] That it means we're less likely to end up with a 1200 point Cinebench score. [1807.06 --> 1808.98] When we were supposed to have 1550. [1809.18 --> 1809.42] Wow. [1809.50 --> 1809.86] Interesting. [1810.00 --> 1811.68] It's like that's paid off for us so far. [1811.68 --> 1814.88] But anyway. [1815.72 --> 1819.38] Anthony also said that one of his hunches is VRM throttling. [1819.48 --> 1821.08] Thanks to the lower specified voltages. [1823.78 --> 1826.20] And that could be affecting their CPU scores. [1826.68 --> 1828.94] And it seems like that would make perfect sense. [1829.04 --> 1830.80] For something like what happened with that. [1831.20 --> 1832.78] With that prebuilt machine. [1832.96 --> 1833.08] Yep. [1834.08 --> 1835.10] Anyway to be clear. [1835.22 --> 1839.96] It's not like I'm crapping on MSI or Gigabyte or ASRock or ASUS even. [1840.08 --> 1841.48] It's not like they don't make mistakes. [1841.48 --> 1842.06] They do. [1842.74 --> 1843.90] They all do. [1844.74 --> 1846.94] But what it looks like might have happened with this launch. [1847.04 --> 1847.74] Is that it got. [1848.12 --> 1849.54] It might have been kind of rushed. [1849.72 --> 1850.64] If you're not making mistakes. [1850.76 --> 1851.80] You're not trying hard enough. [1851.84 --> 1852.04] Yeah. [1852.12 --> 1854.48] You're not going fast and frantically enough. [1854.52 --> 1854.76] Yeah. [1854.96 --> 1855.74] Type faster. [1855.90 --> 1856.12] Yeah. [1858.62 --> 1859.30] So anyway. [1859.40 --> 1862.00] It looks like that has a fair bit to do with. [1862.38 --> 1865.24] With people's coffee lake results being kind of all over the place. [1866.14 --> 1867.94] Like even some of ours were. [1868.04 --> 1869.28] Like we have some gaming results. [1869.28 --> 1872.08] Where coffee lake in spite of its faster clock speed. [1872.28 --> 1873.88] And nearly identical architecture. [1874.28 --> 1874.98] And more cash. [1875.14 --> 1877.70] Is getting beat by the 7700k in gaming. [1878.04 --> 1879.64] And people are like this is impossible. [1879.76 --> 1880.82] These numbers are fake news. [1881.14 --> 1881.50] It's like. [1881.74 --> 1881.96] Okay. [1881.96 --> 1882.46] First of all. [1882.52 --> 1885.06] You guys can't even decide what agenda I'm fighting for. [1885.36 --> 1887.00] Because if I was on Intel's side. [1887.72 --> 1892.10] I sure as heck wouldn't be talking about how the new chip doesn't perform as well as the old one. [1892.12 --> 1893.14] You're fast and loose. [1893.30 --> 1895.26] Just whoever can hand over the check fast enough. [1895.30 --> 1895.46] Like. [1895.66 --> 1896.32] Boom boom boom. [1896.44 --> 1897.42] From minute to minute. [1897.48 --> 1897.70] Yeah. [1897.82 --> 1897.96] Yeah. [1897.96 --> 1898.60] You know. [1899.60 --> 1900.32] It's Friday. [1900.46 --> 1901.66] When the mail delivery arrives. [1901.66 --> 1901.96] I need new check. [1902.10 --> 1902.64] I could be. [1902.72 --> 1904.66] I could be changing sides like that. [1904.86 --> 1907.14] If your CPU box doesn't have a few hundreds in it. [1907.20 --> 1908.14] You ain't getting a good review. [1908.22 --> 1908.64] That's right. [1908.82 --> 1909.30] Figure it out. [1910.68 --> 1911.94] Actually please don't do that. [1912.02 --> 1912.34] So anyway. [1912.48 --> 1913.26] It looks like. [1913.26 --> 1914.06] It looks like. [1914.06 --> 1917.52] That could be to do with something like a Windows scheduling issue. [1917.96 --> 1921.98] Which was one of the things that affected Ryzen 7 performance back when it launched. [1922.40 --> 1922.72] I mean. [1924.14 --> 1925.78] Am I saying that it's for sure that? [1926.12 --> 1926.38] No. [1926.90 --> 1927.36] But. [1927.62 --> 1929.94] 12 threads is more to handle than 8. [1930.10 --> 1932.38] And we already know from the past. [1932.72 --> 1936.28] That hyper threading can affect gaming performance negatively. [1937.16 --> 1937.58] So. [1937.90 --> 1939.66] That might be one of the reasons that. [1939.96 --> 1941.36] And we didn't get an 8600K. [1941.44 --> 1943.02] I almost want to do a separate review of it. [1943.36 --> 1947.84] Because they are kneecapping the i5. [1948.20 --> 1949.74] Like more every generation. [1950.06 --> 1950.16] Yeah. [1950.16 --> 1954.60] The 8600K is a significantly slower chip unless you overclock. [1954.72 --> 1956.74] It used to be what everyone purchased. [1957.12 --> 1957.34] Yeah. [1957.80 --> 1960.20] And Intel has gradually tried to. [1960.74 --> 1961.84] Move people to i7. [1961.98 --> 1963.90] They've tried to brand the i7 better. [1964.26 --> 1966.60] And apparently that's not enough. [1966.86 --> 1967.74] So they are. [1967.92 --> 1970.06] Well I bet you that's part of the existence of i9. [1970.62 --> 1973.50] It's trying to be like i7 isn't the most expensive one. [1974.52 --> 1975.52] That's an interesting thought. [1975.58 --> 1976.46] I never thought about it that way. [1976.46 --> 1976.68] Well. [1976.96 --> 1978.62] Actually I had never thought about this before either. [1978.62 --> 1979.58] But when you go to the store. [1979.72 --> 1980.86] The shampoo bottle example. [1981.78 --> 1982.48] You know the like. [1982.58 --> 1983.68] This is the way too expensive one. [1983.76 --> 1984.68] This is the way too cheap one. [1984.70 --> 1986.74] I'm going to buy the one in the middle. [1986.92 --> 1988.20] Or if you take four of them. [1988.26 --> 1989.48] I'm going to buy the third one. [1990.52 --> 1992.62] Because it's like more value than really expensive one. [1992.68 --> 1994.16] But I'm still getting a nice premium thing. [1994.16 --> 1998.60] Maybe that's some of the thought process there. [2000.44 --> 2001.16] All right. [2001.34 --> 2002.14] So oh you know what. [2002.14 --> 2005.00] By the way people in the chat still doing the yes and no meme. [2005.14 --> 2005.88] That's impressive. [2006.14 --> 2007.02] I know we haven't even done it. [2007.02 --> 2007.72] We should do a shirt. [2008.22 --> 2009.62] Yeah but now it's going to be too late. [2009.70 --> 2009.88] I know. [2009.88 --> 2011.86] Because it'll be like a month or two until we have the shirt. [2011.86 --> 2012.88] It's our own dead meme. [2013.20 --> 2013.44] Yeah. [2013.64 --> 2016.10] I said we should do a shirt like the day that thing started. [2016.20 --> 2016.96] Dead memes yes. [2017.08 --> 2017.86] And then we didn't. [2018.90 --> 2020.72] Speaking of dead memes. [2021.64 --> 2023.06] That's not really a dead meme. [2023.70 --> 2024.26] FreshBooks. [2024.86 --> 2025.12] Yeah. [2025.86 --> 2032.68] FreshBooks is the super simple to use invoicing tool that helps you if you're a small business owner or a freelancer. [2032.90 --> 2035.54] It helps you track your time with the timesheet function. [2035.86 --> 2036.70] Manage your expenses. [2037.06 --> 2038.74] And keep track of who owes you what. [2039.22 --> 2043.00] It also has a feature that tells you when your client looks at your invoice for the first time. [2043.38 --> 2046.94] What's really cool is FreshBooks has all the functionality of the desktop version. [2046.96 --> 2050.32] built into their mobile version. [2050.60 --> 2050.96] Very cool. [2050.96 --> 2053.18] So you can take FreshBooks with you wherever you go. [2053.94 --> 2055.34] Their support is amazing. [2055.52 --> 2057.60] If you have questions you can reach out to their staff. [2057.76 --> 2061.20] You call them and you will actually just speak to a real human immediately. [2061.98 --> 2062.22] Just like. 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[2094.54 --> 2097.92] To make a gorgeous website that works great on any device. [2098.30 --> 2099.38] And I mean. [2099.70 --> 2102.76] I'm sure their legal would never let me actually make a claim like this. [2102.76 --> 2103.96] But they have nothing to do with it. [2104.02 --> 2104.92] Like never goes down. [2105.58 --> 2106.82] Like our Squarespace site. [2107.06 --> 2108.14] Never goes down. [2108.40 --> 2108.52] Yeah. [2108.64 --> 2111.04] And I'm sure it's possible for a Squarespace site to go down. [2111.10 --> 2111.38] It is. [2111.38 --> 2112.06] Someone's has. [2112.38 --> 2112.68] Yep. [2112.86 --> 2113.94] Anything can go down. [2114.32 --> 2114.78] But. [2115.44 --> 2116.86] For all intents and purposes. [2117.34 --> 2119.84] Ours has never gone down. [2120.32 --> 2122.34] They've also got 24-7 support. [2122.56 --> 2124.14] Via live chat and email. [2124.44 --> 2126.06] It starts at just 12 bucks a month. [2126.24 --> 2128.92] And all their site templates feature responsive design. [2129.02 --> 2130.44] So they'll look great on any design. [2130.64 --> 2131.28] Which is huge. [2131.44 --> 2132.04] Any design. [2132.18 --> 2132.66] Any device. [2132.70 --> 2133.10] Device. [2134.16 --> 2135.52] They've got tons of great features. [2135.62 --> 2136.28] Like cover pages. [2136.48 --> 2137.30] Their logo designer. [2137.80 --> 2140.34] And the ability to publish content in Apple News format. [2140.34 --> 2142.72] And you can start a trial with no credit card required. [2142.86 --> 2144.98] Over at squarespace.com slash when. [2145.18 --> 2146.30] Then when you sign up. [2146.68 --> 2147.68] Then use offer code when. [2147.68 --> 2150.18] Then you can get 10% off your first purchase. [2150.30 --> 2151.14] Someone said it's down now. [2151.36 --> 2151.82] It's not. [2153.02 --> 2154.10] It's definitely still up. [2155.64 --> 2156.68] Do I have to prove it live? [2157.36 --> 2158.38] Do I have to do this? [2158.64 --> 2159.40] Do I have to do this? [2159.92 --> 2160.48] You can. [2161.44 --> 2161.88] Hold on. [2162.42 --> 2162.60] Wait. [2162.64 --> 2162.82] What? [2163.06 --> 2163.98] What did I just click on? [2164.88 --> 2165.12] What? [2166.02 --> 2166.40] What the? [2166.86 --> 2167.12] Oh. [2167.32 --> 2168.36] I'll fix that later. [2169.32 --> 2169.58] Boop. [2172.16 --> 2173.32] It's definitely up. [2174.66 --> 2175.28] All right. [2175.28 --> 2176.52] Linus Media Group.com. [2176.52 --> 2178.94] We haven't updated this in so long. [2179.10 --> 2179.92] It's so old. [2180.44 --> 2181.18] Our team. [2181.32 --> 2182.48] Let's see who's even on here. [2184.54 --> 2184.98] Linus. [2185.96 --> 2186.44] Luke. [2186.64 --> 2186.78] Yeah. [2186.82 --> 2187.44] We've got to get you. [2187.48 --> 2188.52] Got to get you removed. [2188.80 --> 2189.18] Wow. [2191.48 --> 2191.96] Hey. [2192.08 --> 2192.98] I don't make the rules. [2193.52 --> 2194.06] I don't make the rules. [2194.20 --> 2194.30] Man. [2194.34 --> 2195.30] That's going to be really weird. [2197.26 --> 2197.58] Tyler. [2197.58 --> 2197.94] Tyler. [2198.20 --> 2198.66] Max. [2198.94 --> 2199.38] Anthony. [2199.80 --> 2200.12] Alex. [2200.24 --> 2200.68] James. [2200.68 --> 2202.92] Ivan's not on here. [2206.06 --> 2207.28] Is Jake on here even? [2208.16 --> 2208.44] Oh yeah. [2208.48 --> 2208.98] Jake's on here. [2209.04 --> 2209.58] Jake's on here. [2212.24 --> 2214.18] I'm sure there's someone else we're missing actually. [2214.22 --> 2215.56] Jake's like sort of an old member now. [2215.68 --> 2216.34] I know. [2216.44 --> 2216.80] Right? [2218.02 --> 2219.30] He was before Pella. [2219.66 --> 2219.98] Yeah. [2221.02 --> 2223.42] He once rode from Victoria to San Francisco. [2223.88 --> 2225.88] I didn't even know that. [2225.88 --> 2226.06] Hello? [2226.20 --> 2226.40] Hello. [2226.66 --> 2226.82] Yeah. [2226.90 --> 2227.14] Yeah. [2227.78 --> 2228.76] Like dude. [2228.94 --> 2232.86] I also didn't know he had never used a Windows computer before he started working here. [2233.08 --> 2236.18] I wish he wasn't physically broken because I'd like to go swimming with him. [2236.94 --> 2237.86] Holy crap. [2237.98 --> 2239.44] But he's physically broken right now. [2239.64 --> 2239.98] Oh. [2240.32 --> 2240.88] He'll fix it. [2240.90 --> 2241.78] How's he broken right now? [2241.78 --> 2244.14] Just like shoulder and knee issues and stuff. [2244.14 --> 2244.42] Oh bummer. [2244.62 --> 2247.58] Probably from doing stuff like biking from Victoria to San Francisco. [2247.70 --> 2247.86] Right. [2248.32 --> 2248.54] Yeah. [2248.60 --> 2248.82] Okay. [2249.48 --> 2251.30] In like a really short period of time. [2251.30 --> 2254.80] I don't remember what it is but like he got there really fast and then went back. [2257.46 --> 2259.30] Like it's actually kind of amazing. [2259.76 --> 2260.52] Dude's super cool. [2260.68 --> 2261.08] All right. [2261.18 --> 2265.92] So Synergy allows you to solve the problem of having two keyboards and two mice. [2266.24 --> 2267.94] It allows you to solve lots of problems even. [2267.94 --> 2276.86] Like being able to throw your laptop on your desk and being able to just like use your desktop peripherals and like do stuff on your laptop. [2277.02 --> 2278.12] Just bam like that. [2278.12 --> 2281.84] I had a setup for a while where I was using my laptop a lot more than I am now. [2282.00 --> 2282.14] Yeah. [2282.20 --> 2286.30] And I got an arm that was actually just a monitor arm and then you get a plate on it. [2286.36 --> 2287.20] That's a laptop plate. [2287.20 --> 2287.22] Cool. [2287.34 --> 2287.50] Yeah. [2287.62 --> 2289.88] And then you over torque the tension and all that kind of stuff. [2289.94 --> 2290.10] Whatever. [2290.18 --> 2290.42] It's fine. [2290.66 --> 2291.94] And then you put the laptop on there. [2292.02 --> 2293.70] So I could go away and use the laptop. [2294.00 --> 2294.46] Bring it home. [2294.60 --> 2295.32] Put it on the arm. [2295.32 --> 2302.60] And then just mouse and keyboard on my whole setup including the laptop which is super nice because you can drag and drop files with it. [2302.96 --> 2305.60] You can even move stuff over really easily. [2305.84 --> 2306.80] You can set up hot keys. [2306.80 --> 2309.62] Hot keys to move your mouse and keyboard over. [2309.78 --> 2310.50] It's wonderful. [2310.50 --> 2312.94] So it works across platforms. [2313.14 --> 2319.38] So it's Linux, Mac and Windows and they offer a basic and pro option with one time payment. [2319.94 --> 2323.16] So head over to the link in the video description and or right there. [2323.60 --> 2325.78] Seamless.com slash Synergy slash. [2326.38 --> 2327.82] That says Linus 31. [2328.08 --> 2330.54] But I think the one I'm supposed to give you today is Linus 32. [2331.30 --> 2333.90] And save 50% on Synergy today. [2334.24 --> 2334.72] It's pretty huge. [2335.42 --> 2336.58] It's a big discount. [2336.58 --> 2340.48] Someone in here said dual PC streaming works great. [2340.64 --> 2340.82] Yeah. [2340.94 --> 2342.12] This would be pretty helpful for it. [2342.20 --> 2342.38] Yeah. [2342.46 --> 2343.66] Actually that's an interesting thought. [2343.96 --> 2344.10] Yeah. [2344.88 --> 2345.24] Yeah. [2345.30 --> 2346.30] That's a good idea. [2346.42 --> 2351.14] One of the examples I always use is what was it? [2354.74 --> 2355.14] Right. [2355.22 --> 2355.68] Like coders. [2356.28 --> 2356.52] Yeah. [2356.60 --> 2360.52] Where you have like a development machine and then you also have like a gaming box next to it or whatever else. [2360.64 --> 2360.76] Yeah. [2361.62 --> 2362.38] All right. [2362.64 --> 2364.30] We've got some more topics for you guys now. [2364.30 --> 2366.24] So Logitech was upset. [2366.58 --> 2370.40] That I called their keycap markings stickers. [2371.36 --> 2372.76] In the what was it? [2372.80 --> 2373.22] The G. [2373.70 --> 2374.32] Hold on. [2375.06 --> 2375.60] G whatever. [2375.82 --> 2377.94] I can't keep track of Logitech's naming scheme. [2378.04 --> 2379.84] It was their wireless mechanical keyboard though. [2380.60 --> 2383.00] G6 something. [2384.02 --> 2385.04] I think it was G6 something. [2385.22 --> 2386.94] I don't like their naming schemes. [2387.96 --> 2389.44] Logitech G613. [2389.44 --> 2391.32] Okay. [2392.32 --> 2394.36] I can't tell from that what it is. [2394.36 --> 2395.22] G612 is a mouse. [2395.56 --> 2395.84] Yeah. [2396.06 --> 2396.58] I can't. [2397.12 --> 2397.42] Yeah. [2397.60 --> 2398.32] I don't like it. [2399.06 --> 2400.52] So I don't know. [2401.58 --> 2402.54] I don't know what to say. [2402.78 --> 2403.16] I like. [2403.26 --> 2405.72] I know it's not as cool because G for gaming whatever. [2405.72 --> 2406.12] Yeah. [2406.12 --> 2408.68] But I would like it if it was like H headphones. [2409.02 --> 2409.28] M. [2409.54 --> 2409.88] Mouse. [2410.38 --> 2410.58] K. [2410.82 --> 2411.14] Keyboard. [2411.56 --> 2411.78] Right. [2411.88 --> 2412.98] So basically Corsair. [2413.68 --> 2414.14] I guess. [2414.90 --> 2416.14] So maybe that's why they can't do it. [2417.06 --> 2417.24] Wait. [2417.32 --> 2419.42] Does Corsair even still do that? [2419.48 --> 2419.64] Yeah. [2419.64 --> 2421.74] Like this is an M65 or whatever. [2421.84 --> 2421.92] Yeah. [2422.00 --> 2422.08] Yeah. [2422.08 --> 2422.42] I think so. [2422.42 --> 2422.96] That's not new though is it? [2423.02 --> 2425.52] And they have like their HS which is headset. [2426.34 --> 2427.82] Like HS100s if you go back. [2428.10 --> 2429.48] Corsair started moving away from it though. [2429.54 --> 2431.34] They've gone with like Void Pro. [2432.06 --> 2432.26] Yeah. [2432.44 --> 2433.40] Like what the heck is that? [2433.48 --> 2434.12] I know what it is. [2434.20 --> 2434.80] I know what it is. [2434.94 --> 2438.10] But like if I was a consumer who wasn't super into this stuff. [2438.22 --> 2438.74] What is it? [2439.04 --> 2439.44] Anyway. [2439.66 --> 2440.50] So they were upset. [2440.80 --> 2442.64] And I told them I would address it on the when show. [2442.90 --> 2444.00] Because we called them stickers. [2444.94 --> 2445.88] And this. [2446.10 --> 2446.32] Okay. [2446.32 --> 2451.42] So the keycaps are textured ABS plastic that are printed and treated with a UV coating. [2451.58 --> 2452.72] This is a standard process. [2452.92 --> 2454.02] They are not stickers. [2455.38 --> 2460.92] What we were complaining about was that dual shot would be better. [2461.30 --> 2463.22] Because it's a lot more durable. [2463.74 --> 2464.88] And quite frankly. [2467.00 --> 2469.20] It can be UV coated all you want. [2469.98 --> 2473.40] And it can be treated and whatever. [2473.40 --> 2474.44] UV coating helps. [2474.86 --> 2475.84] It is still a sticker. [2476.32 --> 2479.66] It's a good sticker. [2482.68 --> 2483.10] But. [2483.42 --> 2484.58] It is a thing. [2485.06 --> 2486.48] That is stuck. [2486.98 --> 2487.72] On top. [2487.78 --> 2488.18] Okay. [2488.44 --> 2488.64] Yeah. [2488.74 --> 2489.34] Of a keycap. [2489.34 --> 2491.36] Because I was going to be like it's not a sticker though. [2491.38 --> 2492.18] It's not a sticker. [2492.34 --> 2492.58] So. [2492.78 --> 2494.06] What I want to say is look. [2494.12 --> 2494.52] I'm sorry. [2494.64 --> 2496.20] It was unfair to call it a sticker. [2496.48 --> 2497.24] It's not a sticker. [2497.46 --> 2497.64] No. [2498.64 --> 2499.80] But it isn't dual shot. [2499.80 --> 2501.26] And as far as I'm concerned. [2501.26 --> 2505.12] A $150 keyboard has dual shot keycaps. [2505.26 --> 2507.42] So the wording was a little over inflammatory. [2507.42 --> 2508.88] But the point stays the same. [2509.12 --> 2509.38] Yes. [2509.76 --> 2510.02] Yeah. [2510.02 --> 2513.78] And their defense is that if your name is Logitech. [2513.84 --> 2516.80] You make a lot of different keyboards for the entire world in many different layouts. [2517.44 --> 2517.68] Nice. [2517.68 --> 2525.18] And dual shot keycaps might not be feasible across you know some of these more niche layouts and or regions. [2525.44 --> 2530.02] And you'll generate complaints if some of them are dual shot and some of them are not. [2530.66 --> 2531.36] Totally get it. [2532.00 --> 2532.66] Still don't care. [2533.30 --> 2537.06] A $150 keyboard should have dual shot keycaps. [2538.62 --> 2538.98] Period. [2538.98 --> 2540.04] And that like that sucks. [2540.16 --> 2542.62] And that's a really annoying manufacturing thing and all that kind of stuff. [2542.66 --> 2543.18] And I hear that. [2543.26 --> 2547.38] But I would rather spend my $150 on a keyboard where I'm getting dual shot keycaps. [2547.40 --> 2548.90] It's $150 US dollars. [2549.14 --> 2550.02] That's a lot of money. [2550.02 --> 2551.40] So it's like a $200 Canadian dollar keyboard. [2551.50 --> 2552.58] That's a really expensive keyboard. [2552.60 --> 2553.72] And it's wireless or whatever. [2553.80 --> 2554.56] And that's great. [2555.16 --> 2555.34] But. [2555.52 --> 2556.36] I actually don't care. [2556.54 --> 2556.94] It's a keyboard. [2556.94 --> 2560.10] I would be pretty not stoked about. [2560.18 --> 2561.32] Do you care about wireless keyboards? [2563.34 --> 2566.62] I like RGB backlighting on my keyboards. [2567.08 --> 2567.62] Believe it or not. [2567.84 --> 2569.02] So no then. [2569.32 --> 2569.80] So no. [2569.82 --> 2570.52] Because battery life. [2570.52 --> 2570.82] For now. [2570.98 --> 2571.14] Yeah. [2571.22 --> 2571.42] Yeah. [2572.02 --> 2572.24] Yeah. [2573.26 --> 2577.78] Apparently if they had made it RGB backlit the battery life would be like a day. [2578.14 --> 2580.44] Instead of six months or whatever. [2580.72 --> 2580.84] Yeah. [2581.58 --> 2582.58] I'm not surprised. [2582.58 --> 2587.48] See I'm like I just having less cables on your desk is nice. [2587.66 --> 2590.36] But one of the easiest things to cable manage on your desk is your keyboard. [2590.96 --> 2591.20] Yeah. [2591.42 --> 2593.00] Especially in terms of permanent cable. [2593.10 --> 2594.06] Yes and no actually. [2594.34 --> 2596.24] Because it goes right into your monitor stand. [2596.42 --> 2597.92] So a lot of time you have to like cross. [2598.04 --> 2599.30] Actually I'm going to disagree with you there. [2599.62 --> 2602.02] I think the keyboard is one of the harder things to cable manage. [2602.02 --> 2603.68] Some monitor stands have cable management slots. [2603.80 --> 2604.54] Some of them do. [2604.58 --> 2604.84] Not all. [2604.92 --> 2605.80] Very few do. [2605.82 --> 2606.10] That's true. [2606.38 --> 2606.80] Yes. [2606.80 --> 2612.14] Like monitor makers have got to be some of the most oblivious out there when it comes [2612.14 --> 2615.10] to like building functionality into their product. [2615.44 --> 2615.64] Yeah. [2615.84 --> 2616.24] So. [2616.56 --> 2616.72] Yeah. [2617.30 --> 2620.36] But like I guess for my desk it's pretty easy. [2620.50 --> 2621.76] Because I have my mixer right there. [2621.88 --> 2624.98] So I just pinch those cable runs in between the mixer and the monitor stand. [2625.20 --> 2626.54] And they all just hold themselves naturally. [2626.54 --> 2626.82] That makes sense. [2627.08 --> 2628.38] But like a lot of monitors too. [2628.38 --> 2628.84] Not everyone will have that. [2628.90 --> 2631.12] Have like you know legs that come out like this right. [2631.32 --> 2631.82] That can be annoying. [2631.82 --> 2633.32] You have to like go around it. [2633.32 --> 2637.96] The ones I'm thinking of their feet are up and they taper down like this. [2638.14 --> 2639.82] You can put the cable right in there. [2639.92 --> 2640.12] Okay. [2640.30 --> 2640.66] All right. [2640.90 --> 2641.50] So that works. [2641.92 --> 2642.34] There's there. [2642.50 --> 2644.42] It's it's not that difficult to manage. [2645.28 --> 2649.66] And I would rather like I understand that the battery life is going to be huge. [2649.80 --> 2652.86] I would rather just never worry about it personally. [2653.70 --> 2655.84] So Doc Swag posted on the forum. [2655.84 --> 2659.52] The Pixel 2 and the Pixel 2 XL. [2660.54 --> 2663.00] And this is a great little spec sheet. [2663.00 --> 2663.30] Wow. [2663.76 --> 2664.34] Fantastic. [2665.86 --> 2668.54] So basically better camera than before. [2668.70 --> 2668.78] Yep. [2669.50 --> 2671.80] Spec wise it's a modern phone. [2672.12 --> 2672.36] Yep. [2672.46 --> 2674.60] So it's exactly what you would expect pretty much. [2674.70 --> 2675.32] 4 gigs RAM. [2675.44 --> 2677.16] 64 slash 128 gig. [2678.80 --> 2679.32] Storage. [2679.62 --> 2682.40] It's got pretty much the same battery life as the previous pics. [2682.54 --> 2685.68] Or pretty much the same battery capacity as the previous pixels give or take. [2687.34 --> 2688.00] DCIP3 screens. [2688.96 --> 2689.52] That's pretty cool. [2689.52 --> 2693.98] Same resolutions as before except the XL. [2694.22 --> 2696.22] It has a different aspect ratio. [2698.22 --> 2699.18] Still AMOLED. [2699.38 --> 2700.04] Same RAM. [2700.40 --> 2700.70] Okay. [2701.20 --> 2701.94] No headphone jack. [2702.00 --> 2702.92] Is this a deal killer for you? [2704.38 --> 2705.02] No. [2705.72 --> 2706.26] Really? [2706.26 --> 2708.88] I don't listen to... [2708.88 --> 2709.68] How interesting. [2710.76 --> 2711.54] Music on my... [2711.54 --> 2713.36] Like it's not a positive. [2713.96 --> 2714.96] I disagree with it. [2715.06 --> 2715.80] I don't like it. [2716.06 --> 2717.62] It wouldn't deal kill the phone for me. [2718.90 --> 2719.92] If that makes sense. [2720.14 --> 2720.48] Okay. [2720.48 --> 2724.42] I don't listen to music on my headphones for my phone that often. [2724.76 --> 2725.02] Okay. [2727.44 --> 2728.92] Because I know you're a Pixel fan. [2729.26 --> 2729.46] Yeah. [2729.58 --> 2730.88] And it's water resistant now. [2731.00 --> 2732.10] Which I know was one of the big things for you. [2732.10 --> 2732.90] That's a huge deal. [2733.08 --> 2733.42] I'm missing. [2733.56 --> 2734.50] I'm wondering about this. [2734.64 --> 2735.72] I'm hoping they fixed this. [2736.00 --> 2736.72] It's cloth. [2737.30 --> 2740.22] Oh, the earpiece grill? [2740.22 --> 2746.24] The earpiece grill on the Pixel and Pixel XL, not the Pixel 2 and Pixel XL 2, is cloth. [2746.56 --> 2747.96] And people go in there and try to clean it. [2748.06 --> 2751.18] And mine's like not looking that great. [2751.28 --> 2756.60] Because it like absorbs gunk over the year-ish that I've used it. [2756.72 --> 2757.82] And you can't clean it. [2757.82 --> 2760.14] Because if you try to scrape it, you'll rip the cloth. [2760.82 --> 2762.26] And there's pictures of people that have done it. [2762.30 --> 2763.34] It's so stupid. [2763.58 --> 2768.42] There's a lot of like really weird, stupid things that were overlooked that will hopefully have been fixed. [2768.52 --> 2769.58] One of them is water resistance. [2769.58 --> 2770.78] You've checked out the colors. [2771.18 --> 2771.28] Yeah. [2771.28 --> 2773.06] Do you like kind of blue, just black, or clearly white? [2773.32 --> 2774.62] The names are weird. [2775.80 --> 2776.84] I don't know. [2777.02 --> 2778.70] I kind of like the panda look. [2779.28 --> 2779.52] Yeah? [2779.64 --> 2779.84] Okay. [2779.92 --> 2780.66] I think it looks all right. [2780.88 --> 2787.30] I think out of all of the phones, the Pixels are kind of boring. [2788.42 --> 2789.42] If that makes sense. [2789.66 --> 2791.16] Like they're not sleek and sexy. [2791.84 --> 2793.36] They called the design iconic. [2793.54 --> 2794.18] Would you agree with that? [2794.20 --> 2794.44] No. [2794.98 --> 2795.26] Oh. [2795.88 --> 2797.04] Well, that's not very nice. [2797.06 --> 2798.74] I don't think it's a bad thing necessarily. [2798.74 --> 2801.68] I just think it doesn't stand out. [2802.02 --> 2803.20] It's not iconic. [2803.44 --> 2805.54] It's the like opposite of iconic. [2806.98 --> 2808.40] And there's glass on the back. [2808.62 --> 2810.76] So everyone's probably just going to want to skin it anyways. [2811.68 --> 2813.02] So I don't know. [2813.90 --> 2814.72] You know, it's funny. [2814.84 --> 2820.64] A lot of people, a lot of people in the Twitch chat, not upset about no three and a half mil jack. [2821.48 --> 2821.88] Okay. [2822.10 --> 2824.16] My thing is, they have all the adapters. [2825.06 --> 2828.48] The main times that I use headphones on my phone is when I'm traveling. [2829.16 --> 2836.54] And it's usually my active noise cancelling headphones that have a carrying case that have their cable in the carrying case. [2836.58 --> 2836.74] Sure. [2836.84 --> 2838.06] That I can just have the adapter in. [2838.16 --> 2838.34] Yep. [2838.34 --> 2843.00] Like it's, I use headphones with my phone so little that it's not a big deal. [2843.08 --> 2843.16] Okay. [2843.20 --> 2846.44] All the people who are upset are flipping the math out right now. [2846.54 --> 2846.88] Oh, yeah. [2847.00 --> 2847.92] Because they are upset. [2848.06 --> 2848.20] Okay. [2848.30 --> 2848.54] Okay. [2848.68 --> 2848.98] Okay. [2849.12 --> 2849.52] I got it. [2849.56 --> 2849.82] I got it. [2849.82 --> 2851.38] And like in my car, I use Bluetooth. [2851.38 --> 2857.28] You can buy Bluetooth dongles where you plug your like headphones or whatever into it. [2857.54 --> 2859.16] And then it interfaces with your phone. [2859.28 --> 2862.22] So you can turn your wired headphones into Bluetooth headphones. [2862.24 --> 2862.26] Yeah. [2862.26 --> 2862.92] They're super cheap. [2863.00 --> 2864.14] They're ridiculously cheap. [2864.20 --> 2865.42] They're like $5 on Amazon or whatever. [2865.42 --> 2865.90] They work really well. [2865.92 --> 2867.92] They hold charge for a really long time. [2868.90 --> 2870.60] It's, it's not that bad. [2870.92 --> 2871.94] I don't like it. [2872.02 --> 2872.90] I don't think it's worth it. [2872.94 --> 2874.18] I think it's a bad design move. [2874.28 --> 2879.44] I think it's not worth making the phone thinner at all because the phone doesn't need to be thinner. [2879.44 --> 2882.06] I think it's very stupid. [2882.24 --> 2884.00] It's not a deal breaker for me personally. [2884.40 --> 2884.76] All right. [2884.80 --> 2885.76] Let's draw a pull it, baby. [2886.70 --> 2888.22] We got people who want a straw pull. [2888.38 --> 2888.60] Okay. [2888.66 --> 2889.50] Just everybody stop. [2889.62 --> 2891.68] Everybody stop talking in the Twitch chat so I can. [2892.24 --> 2896.06] And I can totally understand why people would be upset. [2896.30 --> 2897.86] Straw pull it, straw pull it, straw pull it. [2898.30 --> 2899.82] So I'm like, I'm okay. [2899.88 --> 2908.86] I used to carry my headphones loose in my pocket until I lost so many ear tips and broke a fair number of pairs of headphones. [2908.86 --> 2915.84] And now I use a carrying case that has a little pocket in it that I keep my stupid lightning adapter in. [2915.84 --> 2920.24] Which is the same carrying case I carry for my earbuds. [2920.54 --> 2923.74] Now I'll put a, now I'll put a type C adapter in there too, I guess. [2923.84 --> 2924.08] Yeah. [2924.30 --> 2928.60] Along with an extra ear tip and my non-microphone backup cable. [2928.60 --> 2938.12] Like, I'm clearly working around this, but it is a bit of a pain in the butt for me because I'll go and I'll like pull them out and I'll be like, oh right, I'm using that phone. [2939.82 --> 2941.46] That's a pretty niche use case. [2941.68 --> 2942.84] I know, I know. [2942.84 --> 2946.12] And I think you also use headphones with your phone more than most people do. [2946.38 --> 2947.04] Every single day. [2947.18 --> 2947.32] Yeah. [2947.48 --> 2950.34] Every single day, multiple times a day, I use headphones with my phone. [2950.36 --> 2951.90] So niche use case on top of niche use case. [2952.04 --> 2952.50] Yeah, all right. [2952.50 --> 2954.42] And it's still not game breaking for you, right? [2957.30 --> 2960.32] I mean, your favorite phone's your iPhone, isn't it? [2960.68 --> 2961.12] Yeah. [2961.40 --> 2963.08] I like the iPhone 8 best right now. [2963.26 --> 2965.50] But, um, like it sucks. [2965.62 --> 2966.42] I don't like it. [2966.54 --> 2968.40] I would really prefer there was a jack there. [2968.60 --> 2972.46] I do not care about the thickness that you lose by losing the jack. [2972.62 --> 2975.24] But let's talk about niche people for a minute here. [2975.24 --> 2988.00] I also still have an iPhone 6 that I specifically have so I can jack in and like, like, okay, [2988.12 --> 2990.96] you know that I listen to shows when I sleep. [2991.08 --> 2991.26] Yeah, yeah. [2991.38 --> 2996.34] So I specifically still own an iPhone 6 so that I don't have to have an adapter slash I can [2996.34 --> 2996.84] charge it. [2996.98 --> 2999.60] But didn't you also carry another phone for that earlier? [3000.14 --> 3001.64] Or was it an iPod or something? [3001.96 --> 3003.20] Yeah, because they're off cycle. [3003.20 --> 3006.16] Because this one literally runs all night and the other one runs all day. [3006.28 --> 3007.50] So I charge this one in the morning. [3007.60 --> 3009.00] So you'd carry an old one anyway. [3009.22 --> 3011.34] So I usually would be carrying an old phone anyway. [3011.52 --> 3012.12] That's true. [3012.66 --> 3013.56] This is true. [3015.24 --> 3017.08] Not that it moots your point at all. [3017.26 --> 3019.32] I'm just saying you would have the phone anyways. [3019.58 --> 3019.94] I would. [3020.24 --> 3020.62] I would. [3023.50 --> 3026.46] So 66% of people said that they were mad. [3026.58 --> 3026.78] Yep. [3027.96 --> 3028.94] And that's not surprising. [3029.32 --> 3032.84] You know what is surprising, though, is that 34% said they weren't mad. [3032.84 --> 3033.34] Weren't mad. [3033.46 --> 3033.82] You also didn't. [3033.82 --> 3035.98] Which isn't surprising if 66% said they were mad. [3036.06 --> 3037.56] You didn't ask if it was a deal breaker. [3038.38 --> 3039.90] Because I would have said mad. [3040.96 --> 3042.02] But it's not a deal breaker for you. [3042.02 --> 3043.06] But it's not a deal breaker. [3043.52 --> 3047.80] I would prefer to lose the headphone jack but gain water resistance. [3048.38 --> 3051.10] And no longer have a stupid cloth thing there. [3051.24 --> 3054.02] And have front facing speakers, which are super cool. [3054.10 --> 3054.48] All right. [3054.48 --> 3055.96] And the squeeze thing. [3056.00 --> 3056.54] I don't really care. [3056.98 --> 3061.68] And like a few other things that are nice about the phone that I would trade the headphone jack for. [3061.84 --> 3062.68] I think it's stupid. [3062.84 --> 3067.24] I would love to have all of those things and a headphone jack because that makes way more freaking sense. [3067.40 --> 3068.28] So I am mad. [3069.24 --> 3071.66] But it would not deal break the phone for me. [3071.66 --> 3075.26] So this is kind of crazy. [3075.34 --> 3077.94] The last netlinked. [3077.94 --> 3078.94] Dun-dun-dun. [3078.94 --> 3079.38] Dun-dun. [3081.50 --> 3097.96] So for now, it would appear as though the channel that Luke and I both started our YouTube careers on is in limbo. [3099.00 --> 3099.80] In limbo. [3099.80 --> 3103.68] That would be the most kind word to probably use for it. [3103.68 --> 3104.12] Yeah. [3105.32 --> 3112.34] So they haven't uploaded anything since three days ago when a video entitled, [3112.50 --> 3120.94] X399 NVMe Raid Support DJI Local Data Mode No More Netlinked For Now went up. [3122.44 --> 3126.82] So most of the NCIX Tech Tips team is gone. [3127.14 --> 3132.52] So that was me at one point and was Luke at one point and is not those people anymore. [3132.86 --> 3132.92] Yeah. [3132.92 --> 3134.50] But was also Wheels. [3135.76 --> 3141.24] Then Julia, Anthony, Riley, Jack. [3142.98 --> 3144.72] Who else am I thinking of here? [3146.30 --> 3147.26] Riley, Jack. [3148.44 --> 3149.64] Am I missing anyone? [3150.06 --> 3151.62] Oh, I mean Barrett. [3152.28 --> 3153.28] Riley's brother. [3153.54 --> 3154.82] Was Esther part of the team? [3154.90 --> 3156.36] Esther was part of the team at some point. [3156.86 --> 3161.74] So of all of those people, the people who are gone, all of them. [3161.74 --> 3166.78] There you go. [3166.82 --> 3167.42] Yeah, that makes sense. [3167.78 --> 3174.18] In the last episode, he did say that he's going to be trying to make videos still sometimes. [3175.38 --> 3180.34] He was saying hopefully one a week, but was like, do not hold me to that. [3180.34 --> 3183.16] So we'll see how that comes out. [3183.26 --> 3187.40] So we'll go ahead and like I can maybe address some of the comments here. [3188.68 --> 3192.36] You know, rip me if LTT were to ever go under. [3192.92 --> 3193.52] Don't worry. [3193.58 --> 3194.18] We're not going anywhere. [3194.34 --> 3194.92] We're good, man. [3194.92 --> 3196.54] Yeah, we're like super awesome and good. [3196.84 --> 3196.94] Yeah. [3198.78 --> 3209.36] So a lot of people seem to be wondering about how this could happen to a channel with lots of subscribers and actually like okay viewership. [3209.66 --> 3209.98] Yeah. [3209.98 --> 3214.50] Like you're never going to do well on like mesh Wi-Fi or whatever. [3214.74 --> 3220.54] But, you know, the core stuff, Netlink is doing 60, 100,000 views an episode. [3221.16 --> 3222.24] That's not bad. [3223.22 --> 3226.90] That should be sustainable for a team of a couple people. [3228.14 --> 3228.86] Yeah, actually it should. [3228.86 --> 3230.50] So people are asking like what happened. [3230.78 --> 3237.28] So it seems to have a lot more to do with decision business decisions being made by the parent company. [3237.54 --> 3240.86] So I'm not going to comment on sort of. [3241.94 --> 3245.18] Oh, so I don't want to comment on anything that I'm being told in confidence. [3245.32 --> 3246.44] Like I still know people there. [3246.54 --> 3249.92] So I know stuff that that like people don't. [3249.92 --> 3253.36] I'll say really vague stuff then because I haven't talked to these people. [3253.42 --> 3253.66] Sure. [3253.76 --> 3257.30] You can just look at NCX and how they're doing right now. [3257.30 --> 3259.02] They're closing stores. [3259.32 --> 3264.80] People have been departed from the YouTube channel. [3265.96 --> 3267.02] You can see different. [3267.58 --> 3272.10] I mean, someone works here now that didn't before that used to work there. [3273.68 --> 3274.20] Yeah. [3274.64 --> 3279.26] The writing is sort of on the wall and it seems to be going rather quickly. [3279.86 --> 3281.46] That's all outside perspective. [3281.60 --> 3283.86] Haven't had conversations with anyone in the company stuff. [3285.18 --> 3286.50] So there you go. [3286.50 --> 3287.44] It's an end of an era. [3287.58 --> 3295.72] And I've got to say it's pretty sad for me actually because this was like kind of my baby. [3296.92 --> 3300.88] Well, like the store that you worked out of and I used to buy all of my... [3300.88 --> 3301.22] Sorry? [3301.80 --> 3302.00] Oh. [3302.26 --> 3302.48] Yeah. [3302.48 --> 3303.48] Yeah. [3303.48 --> 3303.76] Yeah. [3306.32 --> 3306.68] Yeah. [3306.76 --> 3307.54] So it's... [3307.54 --> 3307.96] Yeah. [3308.04 --> 3313.94] It's kind of tough because this is something that like I started and put my heart and soul [3313.94 --> 3317.14] into and became like a part of my personal identity. [3317.14 --> 3320.72] Like this was what turned me into a YouTuber. [3321.04 --> 3321.20] Yeah. [3321.20 --> 3330.30] And to see it kind of go down like this was really frustrating and sad actually. [3330.42 --> 3330.56] It's kind of weird. [3330.56 --> 3334.62] Because it was weird at first to no longer be a part of that team. [3334.62 --> 3339.20] Like the team making the NCIX Tech Tips videos when you and I did it for so long. [3339.36 --> 3339.56] Yeah. [3339.66 --> 3343.60] And then it's going to be even weirder having that not exist now. [3345.08 --> 3349.14] People in Twitch chat are saying that we should buy NCIX. [3349.14 --> 3349.58] Yes. [3350.58 --> 3350.88] Yes. [3351.02 --> 3351.78] That would be... [3351.78 --> 3352.82] That would be... [3352.82 --> 3354.82] That would be a... [3354.82 --> 3355.24] Wow. [3355.62 --> 3356.22] How... [3356.22 --> 3357.64] How... [3357.64 --> 3358.52] How... [3358.52 --> 3359.12] How... [3359.12 --> 3359.82] How... [3359.82 --> 3361.32] How does this idea fail? [3361.40 --> 3362.34] Let me count the ways. [3364.62 --> 3365.84] Fail so hard. [3366.86 --> 3367.34] Buying... [3367.34 --> 3369.96] Failing companies is like a sad decision. [3370.04 --> 3370.30] Yeah. [3370.42 --> 3370.58] Yeah. [3370.64 --> 3374.94] Buying companies that are clearly losing money is like good business. [3374.94 --> 3375.70] I love so much. [3375.70 --> 3379.12] You know, people are asking like, you know, LTE. [3379.14 --> 3380.36] LTE's not going anywhere, right? [3380.84 --> 3383.94] And it is because we don't make decisions like that. [3384.54 --> 3387.96] That Linus Media Group is doing great. [3389.36 --> 3390.82] Just great, actually. [3391.64 --> 3391.92] Yeah. [3392.10 --> 3392.48] Yeah. [3392.98 --> 3393.94] I agree with that. [3394.16 --> 3394.88] You know what, though? [3395.42 --> 3396.50] I would love to buy the channel. [3396.66 --> 3397.92] Someone in chat says, hi, Ed. [3398.26 --> 3398.52] Oh. [3399.54 --> 3400.30] I'd buy it. [3401.68 --> 3402.12] Oh. [3402.40 --> 3403.06] That would be... [3403.06 --> 3403.36] Oh. [3403.48 --> 3404.20] That would be weird. [3405.34 --> 3407.60] I would buy some of the people that come with it. [3407.82 --> 3408.82] I'm not going to name any names, [3408.82 --> 3410.18] but I wouldn't buy all of them. [3410.34 --> 3411.82] Besides, no people come with it at this point. [3411.82 --> 3414.58] Would you rename it and just make it a tech news channel? [3414.70 --> 3416.60] I think we could just call it like... [3416.60 --> 3420.94] We could just call it like NX Tech Tips or something like that. [3421.00 --> 3422.38] We could just like change it a little bit. [3422.64 --> 3422.88] Yeah. [3423.00 --> 3425.96] Because it would be really weird keeping the NCX Tech Tips. [3425.96 --> 3427.36] And we could just make it straight tech news. [3427.68 --> 3427.88] Yeah. [3428.30 --> 3430.52] Just get rid of every format that wasn't Netlinked. [3430.78 --> 3430.96] Yeah. [3431.14 --> 3431.72] Because I actually... [3431.72 --> 3432.78] I liked the Netlinked format. [3432.96 --> 3433.42] I would... [3433.42 --> 3435.78] Like, I would see a Netlinked thumbnail. [3436.00 --> 3436.66] I'm not surprised you like it. [3436.66 --> 3437.42] But it is good. [3437.48 --> 3438.94] They changed it a lot from what... [3438.94 --> 3440.62] Like, if you look at the early ones, they were trash. [3441.20 --> 3442.48] Like, they changed it a lot. [3442.56 --> 3443.74] They made it more YouTube-y. [3443.84 --> 3444.64] They made it more upbeat. [3445.04 --> 3446.30] They made it more fun. [3447.90 --> 3450.04] And, you know, I would see a thumbnail and be like, [3450.06 --> 3451.12] oh, yeah, what's going on with that? [3451.14 --> 3452.06] And I'd click it. [3452.14 --> 3453.34] And, like, you know, four minutes would pass. [3453.36 --> 3454.58] I'd be like, oh, I just watched the whole video, [3454.66 --> 3455.92] which doesn't happen a lot for me. [3455.94 --> 3457.12] I don't watch a lot of YouTube videos. [3457.12 --> 3457.30] Yeah. [3457.30 --> 3458.76] Like, I actually like Netlinked. [3461.26 --> 3462.52] So, Sue Ned. [3464.94 --> 3465.34] Yeah. [3465.44 --> 3467.60] So, I wouldn't mind bringing back Netlinked, [3467.64 --> 3470.98] but I'll tell you now that my relationship with NCIX [3470.98 --> 3475.52] is not at the best it's been in the last 10 years. [3476.30 --> 3478.88] And I don't even think for a fair offer [3478.88 --> 3480.26] they'd be interested in selling to me. [3480.26 --> 3483.52] So, I could be wrong. [3483.68 --> 3484.94] I mean, I could always reach out and be like, [3485.02 --> 3487.24] yo, you guys still want that channel? [3488.00 --> 3491.24] I mean, with how YouTube treats subscribers [3491.24 --> 3492.18] and stuff right now, [3492.80 --> 3495.42] it might not be too bad to just start another one. [3496.16 --> 3498.16] I think 1.1 mil has a value [3498.16 --> 3501.24] because you can build up a big subscriber base [3501.24 --> 3502.66] back to, like, getting notifications [3502.66 --> 3503.82] faster than you can, like, [3503.92 --> 3505.38] build a subscriber base from nothing. [3506.16 --> 3506.56] Yeah. [3506.62 --> 3508.40] We wouldn't be building a subscriber base from nothing, though. [3508.40 --> 3509.82] And I would also just be like, [3509.88 --> 3512.24] I would be, like, taking back my baby. [3512.42 --> 3512.92] No, I know. [3513.06 --> 3513.26] Yeah. [3513.40 --> 3514.26] That would be part of it. [3514.26 --> 3514.44] I know. [3514.60 --> 3514.82] Yeah. [3514.92 --> 3515.88] I think that's probably most of it. [3515.90 --> 3516.66] That's a big part of it. [3516.66 --> 3516.90] Yeah. [3516.90 --> 3517.38] Okay. [3517.74 --> 3518.76] Why don't we just put it that way? [3521.48 --> 3523.46] I completely understand that. [3523.48 --> 3524.22] If I had to, [3524.30 --> 3525.92] and this I can comment on [3525.92 --> 3528.34] because I haven't really talked to anybody about it, [3528.64 --> 3529.72] but if I had to guess, [3530.16 --> 3532.02] rather than, you know, [3532.06 --> 3533.70] do something sensible with it, [3533.80 --> 3535.08] they're just going to run it into the ground. [3536.30 --> 3537.24] If I had to guess, [3537.28 --> 3538.58] I would say they're just going to pull [3538.58 --> 3540.94] what Tiger Direct and Newegg did before them. [3540.94 --> 3546.42] They're going to have no concept of what made it good. [3546.58 --> 3546.96] Oh, my God. [3546.96 --> 3549.18] They're going to bring in some random outsiders [3549.18 --> 3554.16] to try to make videos. [3554.38 --> 3557.66] They're going to have no idea why people watch videos. [3557.80 --> 3559.42] They're going to try to just sell stuff, [3559.42 --> 3562.94] and it's going to be a complete disaster, [3563.40 --> 3565.42] and it's going to just crater. [3566.68 --> 3567.68] I'm going to have to, like, [3567.86 --> 3569.52] archive some of these old videos. [3570.00 --> 3570.30] Yeah. [3570.56 --> 3571.34] I get, like, this. [3571.46 --> 3572.22] Do you remember doing this? [3572.46 --> 3574.72] Oh, the Ultimate Water Cooling Guide Part 3 [3574.72 --> 3576.30] where we had to, like, build the whole thing, [3576.38 --> 3577.54] then tear the whole thing apart, [3577.66 --> 3578.94] and then, like, build it again or whatever. [3579.06 --> 3579.74] That was awful. [3580.46 --> 3581.06] I was like, [3581.06 --> 3582.50] was that an all-night shoot? [3582.80 --> 3584.82] I think that was, like, two all-night shoots. [3584.84 --> 3585.50] I don't remember. [3585.74 --> 3587.22] Because there was part one, two, and three. [3587.38 --> 3588.30] How many views does it have? [3588.36 --> 3589.28] Did it at least get a lot of views? [3589.32 --> 3590.54] It did really good for that time. [3591.46 --> 3592.40] 778,000. [3592.50 --> 3592.90] Not bad. [3593.04 --> 3593.20] Yeah. [3593.52 --> 3594.06] All right. [3594.62 --> 3597.52] I think we've got time for maybe one more topic. [3599.82 --> 3600.18] Okay. [3600.22 --> 3601.32] It's the Intel Show, apparently, [3601.32 --> 3605.34] because I'm super, super not stoked on this. [3605.88 --> 3607.32] Posted by... [3607.32 --> 3607.66] Oh. [3607.96 --> 3609.32] Doesn't say who on the forum. [3611.06 --> 3611.76] But, like, [3613.24 --> 3614.20] WarSTM. [3614.22 --> 3615.00] This is just... [3615.00 --> 3616.94] Intel will no longer be providing [3616.94 --> 3618.76] per-core turbo frequencies, [3619.68 --> 3623.58] making motherboard tuning impossible. [3623.80 --> 3625.10] So you won't be able to [3625.10 --> 3627.18] alter your overclocks per-core. [3631.54 --> 3633.00] So, Extreme Tech says, [3633.08 --> 3635.14] when we queried Intel as to why [3635.14 --> 3637.72] they've decided to no longer officially disclose [3637.72 --> 3639.10] per-core turbo frequencies, [3639.22 --> 3639.56] they said, [3639.56 --> 3642.02] we're no longer disclosing this level of detail [3642.02 --> 3643.76] as it is proprietary to Intel. [3644.34 --> 3646.36] Intel only specifies processor frequencies [3646.36 --> 3647.98] for base and single-core turbo [3647.98 --> 3650.04] in our processor marketing and technical collateral, [3650.16 --> 3650.72] such as ARC, [3650.90 --> 3653.02] and not the multi-core turbo frequencies. [3653.18 --> 3654.94] We're aligning communications to be consistent. [3655.46 --> 3657.22] All turbo frequencies are opportunistic [3657.22 --> 3659.22] given their dependency on system configuration [3659.22 --> 3660.30] and workload. [3660.42 --> 3660.78] BS. [3662.64 --> 3663.58] Pretty annoying. [3663.58 --> 3665.82] Basically, what you're doing [3665.82 --> 3667.50] is you're making us go measure it. [3667.86 --> 3668.08] Yeah. [3668.20 --> 3668.46] Why? [3668.78 --> 3670.28] Why are you wasting our time? [3671.12 --> 3671.76] This is like... [3671.76 --> 3673.40] This is like Apple not disclosing [3673.40 --> 3674.96] the capacity of their batteries [3674.96 --> 3676.68] to make someone take it apart. [3677.34 --> 3677.78] It's like, [3677.88 --> 3679.60] you're not concealing anything. [3679.94 --> 3680.62] We'll figure it out. [3680.74 --> 3682.42] You're just inconveniencing everybody [3682.42 --> 3683.96] for no reason. [3684.10 --> 3685.46] Literally not even reverse engineering. [3685.68 --> 3687.14] It's just trying something. [3688.02 --> 3689.94] Like, it's not difficult to figure out. [3689.94 --> 3690.98] I just can't even. [3691.14 --> 3692.32] It's just extremely annoying [3692.32 --> 3693.52] for all of the consumers. [3696.84 --> 3699.10] So, yeah, I guess that's [3699.10 --> 3701.44] all I really had to say about that. [3701.48 --> 3702.20] I'm sort of surprised. [3702.40 --> 3704.22] Okay, someone is posting salt in the chat. [3704.48 --> 3706.42] I was surprised people weren't doing salt tips. [3707.04 --> 3707.58] Salt tips. [3707.90 --> 3709.62] Did you see that clip? [3710.06 --> 3710.32] No. [3710.54 --> 3711.46] I ate salt, [3711.66 --> 3712.52] and it was a mistake. [3712.92 --> 3714.44] I didn't think it was going to be that bad, [3714.80 --> 3716.08] because I was talking about, like, [3716.08 --> 3717.96] people being salty about something. [3717.96 --> 3718.60] How much did you have? [3718.86 --> 3719.64] Well, there was, like, [3719.66 --> 3720.60] one of those big ones, [3720.66 --> 3721.08] and I was like, [3721.20 --> 3721.46] oh. [3721.96 --> 3722.82] No, no, it wasn't, like, [3722.90 --> 3723.78] fully open or anything, [3723.92 --> 3725.26] but, like, for a bit, [3725.30 --> 3726.18] I was actually okay, [3726.28 --> 3727.22] and I was going to just keep going [3727.22 --> 3727.68] with the video, [3727.74 --> 3728.18] and then it, like, [3728.20 --> 3728.98] hit me all at once. [3729.02 --> 3730.02] It was pretty bad. [3730.12 --> 3731.60] Because there's salts [3731.60 --> 3733.06] that you can eat. [3733.82 --> 3734.50] Like, if you get, like, [3734.54 --> 3735.46] salt mixes and stuff, [3735.50 --> 3736.22] you can have, like, [3736.30 --> 3738.10] a, what is the really small one? [3738.14 --> 3738.52] A tablespoon? [3739.46 --> 3740.08] Yeah, a teaspoon. [3740.24 --> 3740.80] Teaspoon, yeah. [3742.74 --> 3744.08] I'm not very, uh, [3744.08 --> 3746.30] up with the whole [3746.30 --> 3747.46] etiquette thing. [3748.34 --> 3748.86] Aim's gone. [3751.10 --> 3751.50] Okay. [3755.00 --> 3756.22] I'd be a lot more sad [3756.22 --> 3757.10] if this was, uh, [3757.86 --> 3758.34] MSN. [3760.10 --> 3761.08] Yeah, I was sad [3761.08 --> 3761.88] when this was MSN. [3762.72 --> 3763.34] There you go. [3763.40 --> 3764.70] I, like, had a dream [3764.70 --> 3765.62] about MSN, [3765.96 --> 3766.38] like, [3767.38 --> 3768.68] in the last three days. [3768.78 --> 3769.60] I don't remember exactly when. [3770.30 --> 3770.80] But, man, [3770.80 --> 3772.22] if it came back suddenly, [3772.22 --> 3773.54] I would jump on that train [3773.54 --> 3774.52] so fast, [3774.64 --> 3775.58] and then they would [3775.58 --> 3776.90] Skype-ify the crap out of it, [3776.98 --> 3777.86] and I would bail out [3777.86 --> 3778.90] so fast. [3779.72 --> 3780.10] Um, [3780.94 --> 3782.72] Microsoft Edge [3782.72 --> 3783.94] is coming to iOS and Android. [3787.06 --> 3787.46] Cool. [3791.80 --> 3793.02] I guess I can use that [3793.02 --> 3793.44] for, like, [3793.50 --> 3794.54] accounts that I don't want [3794.54 --> 3795.20] to have signed in [3795.20 --> 3795.78] on the other ones. [3796.10 --> 3796.78] I don't know. [3797.78 --> 3798.18] Um. [3798.24 --> 3799.12] I just used other browsers [3799.12 --> 3799.52] for that, [3799.58 --> 3800.00] so it's fine. [3800.76 --> 3801.82] And there's gonna be [3801.82 --> 3802.48] another Blackberry. [3802.82 --> 3803.12] Uh, [3803.14 --> 3804.34] there's a huge thing on this [3804.34 --> 3805.20] that we haven't talked [3805.20 --> 3805.84] about at all yet. [3806.52 --> 3807.32] Oh, right! [3807.60 --> 3808.06] On, like, [3808.10 --> 3808.74] any platform. [3808.86 --> 3809.64] Oh, wow! [3809.70 --> 3810.08] And we're doing it [3810.08 --> 3810.90] at the very end of the show [3810.90 --> 3811.62] when no one's watching. [3811.72 --> 3812.50] Holy crap, [3812.60 --> 3813.18] we suck! [3813.78 --> 3814.36] We're really, [3814.48 --> 3815.10] it's funny, [3815.22 --> 3815.90] because, uh, [3815.96 --> 3816.40] we're, like, [3816.48 --> 3817.70] in the advertising business, [3817.80 --> 3818.62] and then when we need [3818.62 --> 3819.68] to advertise our own things, [3819.72 --> 3821.10] we just suck at it. [3821.14 --> 3821.48] I know, [3821.56 --> 3822.40] we're not the greatest [3822.40 --> 3823.02] marketers. [3823.64 --> 3824.00] Um. [3824.18 --> 3824.80] Also known as, like, [3824.82 --> 3826.26] we often just don't market it. [3826.26 --> 3826.62] Anyway, [3826.70 --> 3827.74] there's a Blackberry phone [3827.74 --> 3828.20] that's coming. [3828.50 --> 3828.94] Oh, cool. [3830.04 --> 3830.48] Um. [3831.64 --> 3832.54] Holy crap, [3832.64 --> 3833.46] how have we not talked [3833.46 --> 3834.02] about this? [3834.82 --> 3835.18] Floatplane. [3835.90 --> 3836.34] Um. [3836.78 --> 3837.90] Kind of a big deal. [3838.42 --> 3838.60] Uh, [3838.62 --> 3839.68] Scrapyard Wars is up. [3840.02 --> 3840.92] People don't even believe [3840.92 --> 3841.70] me that it's there. [3841.86 --> 3842.14] Really? [3842.42 --> 3842.68] Yeah. [3842.78 --> 3843.04] Okay, [3843.16 --> 3843.68] now hold on, [3843.74 --> 3844.38] I got this. [3844.46 --> 3845.46] I will show the people. [3845.46 --> 3845.74] And, like, [3845.76 --> 3846.50] we don't have a trailer, [3846.62 --> 3847.78] we had a trailer for the, [3847.78 --> 3848.24] the, like, [3848.90 --> 3850.06] cleanup vlogs. [3850.30 --> 3851.06] We didn't get a trailer [3851.06 --> 3852.06] for Scrapyard Wars? [3852.06 --> 3852.98] Well, we're, like, [3853.32 --> 3854.86] we had to delay it a bit, [3854.86 --> 3855.52] so we're. [3855.76 --> 3856.08] Oh, yeah, [3856.10 --> 3857.04] it's a two-week window. [3857.94 --> 3858.92] A two-week window? [3859.00 --> 3859.20] Uh, [3859.24 --> 3859.84] long story. [3860.10 --> 3860.36] Oh. [3860.82 --> 3861.52] Long story, [3861.80 --> 3862.18] essentially, [3862.34 --> 3862.96] we have to, [3863.20 --> 3863.44] yeah. [3863.62 --> 3864.64] We could still have a trailer. [3865.22 --> 3865.50] Yeah, [3865.54 --> 3866.68] but it would be too early. [3866.68 --> 3867.84] Yeah, [3867.90 --> 3868.10] so, [3868.22 --> 3868.34] no, [3868.42 --> 3868.56] that, [3868.62 --> 3868.74] no, [3868.82 --> 3869.42] that makes sense. [3869.44 --> 3869.54] Well, [3869.54 --> 3870.10] we'd have a trailer [3870.10 --> 3870.90] for a float plane. [3871.58 --> 3871.90] Yeah, [3871.92 --> 3873.20] but we're gonna have it, [3873.32 --> 3873.74] um, [3874.44 --> 3874.80] uh, [3874.80 --> 3875.54] it, [3875.66 --> 3875.86] it, [3875.86 --> 3876.20] trust me, [3876.22 --> 3876.76] it makes sense. [3876.90 --> 3876.92] Okay, [3876.92 --> 3877.06] sure. [3877.16 --> 3877.86] We don't want to tease [3877.86 --> 3878.78] something two weeks [3878.78 --> 3879.32] in advance. [3879.62 --> 3879.84] Well, [3879.92 --> 3880.56] we want to tease it [3880.56 --> 3881.28] a week in advance. [3881.28 --> 3881.86] if they get it on float plane. [3881.90 --> 3882.02] No, [3882.06 --> 3882.14] no, [3882.18 --> 3882.34] but, [3882.46 --> 3882.82] um. [3883.24 --> 3883.70] I know. [3884.08 --> 3884.44] I get it. [3884.44 --> 3884.62] Yeah, [3884.74 --> 3884.84] we, [3884.92 --> 3886.02] we don't want to create [3886.02 --> 3887.52] more salt than we have to. [3887.60 --> 3887.96] I get it. [3888.82 --> 3889.58] But it's there. [3889.90 --> 3889.96] So, [3889.96 --> 3890.58] what do we got? [3890.88 --> 3891.40] TechWiki, [3891.72 --> 3892.56] bias lighting [3892.56 --> 3894.24] as fast as possible. [3894.62 --> 3895.18] That's a good thumbnail. [3895.28 --> 3895.52] It's pretty. [3895.72 --> 3896.56] That is actually pretty good. [3896.80 --> 3897.82] Behind the scenes [3897.82 --> 3899.42] demolition vlog. [3900.42 --> 3900.74] Yay. [3900.94 --> 3901.16] Dun, [3901.28 --> 3901.50] dun, [3901.58 --> 3901.82] dun. [3901.88 --> 3902.02] Oh, [3902.06 --> 3902.16] yeah, [3902.20 --> 3903.18] we demolished our sets, [3903.46 --> 3904.32] so that was a thing. [3905.08 --> 3905.32] Uh, [3905.32 --> 3906.62] this was a simultaneous release, [3906.78 --> 3908.62] the Core i7 8700K. [3909.52 --> 3909.90] So, [3909.98 --> 3910.92] you guys have probably seen that. [3911.44 --> 3912.92] The Ultimate Mega Workstation. [3913.02 --> 3913.16] Oh, [3913.20 --> 3914.46] I think that was a simultaneous release [3914.46 --> 3915.58] as well because of, [3915.58 --> 3915.96] um, [3916.38 --> 3916.60] uh, [3916.60 --> 3917.80] Cooler Master K sponsorship. [3918.82 --> 3919.82] Trackball Mouse Review. [3920.12 --> 3920.50] Yeah, [3920.62 --> 3921.08] I saw that. [3921.08 --> 3921.90] released a new trackball. [3922.04 --> 3922.76] It's kind of neat. [3922.94 --> 3923.22] Yeah. [3923.36 --> 3924.48] I wonder how well it's going to sell. [3924.70 --> 3926.04] I have no idea. [3926.16 --> 3927.70] Probably not particularly amazingly. [3928.18 --> 3928.54] Yeah, [3928.56 --> 3928.84] but like, [3928.86 --> 3929.78] I'm sure they're prepared for that. [3929.86 --> 3929.96] Like, [3929.98 --> 3930.82] I'm sure it'll all be fine. [3931.26 --> 3932.16] Scrapyard Wars. [3932.70 --> 3933.16] Heck yeah. [3934.14 --> 3935.06] Scrapyard Wars 6, [3935.14 --> 3935.86] part 1. [3936.36 --> 3937.42] Sponsored by Dbrand. [3938.54 --> 3939.42] Holy crap. [3940.08 --> 3940.98] Jay's 2 Cents. [3941.30 --> 3942.00] Holy crap. [3942.08 --> 3943.36] Dimitri from Hardware Canucks. [3944.00 --> 3944.96] Holy crap. [3945.36 --> 3946.24] Hold on a second. [3946.38 --> 3946.96] Hold on a second. [3947.38 --> 3947.50] I, [3947.54 --> 3948.78] I got like a quick spoiler. [3949.32 --> 3950.08] I got a quick spoiler. [3950.08 --> 3951.10] Uh, [3951.44 --> 3952.06] holy crap. [3952.18 --> 3953.88] You can hardly recognize Linus [3953.88 --> 3955.66] in this outfit. [3957.22 --> 3959.62] How will anyone ever recognize him on the street? [3960.10 --> 3962.36] He's going incognito. [3962.90 --> 3963.76] I love the glasses. [3963.94 --> 3964.38] Wait for it. [3964.68 --> 3965.18] It's coming. [3967.18 --> 3968.40] And he's gone. [3968.66 --> 3969.88] Incognito Linus. [3969.98 --> 3970.38] Gone. [3970.38 --> 3971.24] Um, [3971.28 --> 3971.70] so yeah, [3971.78 --> 3972.38] it's 40, [3972.50 --> 3974.98] 42 minutes of Scrapyard Wars greatness, [3975.24 --> 3977.96] and the episodes are rolling out weekly on, [3978.02 --> 3979.62] I think it's either Saturdays or Sundays. [3979.94 --> 3980.14] So, [3980.24 --> 3980.42] um, [3980.42 --> 3980.60] yeah, [3980.82 --> 3983.84] get signed up for Flowplane if you guys want to be watching Scrapyard Wars. [3984.24 --> 3984.62] Right? [3984.80 --> 3985.08] Meow. [3986.08 --> 3986.40] Uh, [3986.40 --> 3987.42] Handy Tech Under 100. [3987.58 --> 3988.42] Stuff for your stuff. [3988.80 --> 3989.04] Oh, [3989.12 --> 3989.32] cool. [3989.40 --> 3990.22] Another one of those. [3990.30 --> 3990.46] Yep. [3990.66 --> 3992.04] We are finally bringing back Handy Tech. [3992.12 --> 3993.44] Stuff for your stuff? [3993.70 --> 3994.08] Um, [3994.40 --> 3996.02] this is a pretty cool product. [3996.66 --> 4000.26] That is actually the size of this entire computer that contains a GTX 1080. [4001.28 --> 4001.68] Oh. [4002.22 --> 4002.54] Yeah. [4003.78 --> 4004.84] That's really small. [4004.86 --> 4006.12] That's a 1080 for scale. [4006.44 --> 4006.64] Yeah, [4006.70 --> 4006.86] yeah. [4006.98 --> 4007.80] Is that it? [4007.92 --> 4008.84] Is that the card right there? [4008.84 --> 4010.04] This is the 1080 right here. [4010.14 --> 4010.52] Wow. [4010.78 --> 4010.98] Yeah, [4011.14 --> 4011.68] it's pretty cool. [4012.38 --> 4012.82] Um, [4013.44 --> 4015.10] deletting a thousand dollar CPU. [4015.44 --> 4015.64] Oh, [4015.64 --> 4016.78] is it worth the risk? [4018.38 --> 4019.96] What would you put the risk at? [4020.00 --> 4021.46] Too hot for a thousand dollars. [4021.88 --> 4022.12] No, [4022.12 --> 4023.76] I mean like percentage wise. [4024.58 --> 4024.90] Ah, [4025.08 --> 4025.52] ooh, [4025.60 --> 4026.24] hard to say. [4026.44 --> 4026.66] Yeah. [4026.96 --> 4027.34] Um, [4027.36 --> 4028.70] and last but not least, [4029.72 --> 4032.20] the full RGB water cooling system. [4032.46 --> 4034.30] Even the fittings are RGB. [4034.70 --> 4036.76] This is actually one of the better performing videos, [4036.86 --> 4037.02] like, [4037.16 --> 4037.72] of all time. [4037.96 --> 4038.10] Oh, [4038.16 --> 4038.28] wow. [4038.38 --> 4039.42] Deletting did really well too. [4039.74 --> 4039.92] Yeah. [4040.00 --> 4040.46] Um, [4041.26 --> 4042.16] this one too. [4042.16 --> 4043.60] What does scroll lock do? [4043.70 --> 4044.78] Killed it on TechQuickie. [4045.14 --> 4045.62] Or, [4045.74 --> 4046.22] killed it on, [4046.26 --> 4046.38] uh, [4046.38 --> 4046.76] floatplane. [4048.44 --> 4048.84] So, [4048.96 --> 4049.32] guys, [4049.52 --> 4049.76] uh, [4049.80 --> 4050.02] Joe, [4050.16 --> 4050.90] go join, [4051.38 --> 4052.10] go join the [4052.12 --> 4052.56] plane. [4052.70 --> 4053.14] Joe join. [4053.30 --> 4053.72] The club. [4053.84 --> 4055.04] It's not going to be called a club anymore. [4055.22 --> 4055.44] Nope. [4055.50 --> 4055.78] We gotta, [4055.88 --> 4056.78] we gotta get out of the habit. [4056.94 --> 4057.14] We don't, [4057.20 --> 4058.00] don't say join the club. [4058.14 --> 4058.84] Just get on the plane. [4059.00 --> 4059.60] Get on the plane. [4059.68 --> 4059.92] Just, [4059.98 --> 4060.18] uh, [4060.18 --> 4061.08] get your pilot's license. [4061.32 --> 4062.08] Just get on the plane, [4062.18 --> 4062.42] man. [4063.10 --> 4063.54] Um, [4063.82 --> 4064.62] so head over there. [4064.76 --> 4066.30] It is three bucks a month. [4066.40 --> 4070.58] We cannot promise that that pricing will remain after the launch. [4070.58 --> 4071.58] Um, [4071.74 --> 4073.06] when it goes on to the other site. [4073.06 --> 4074.18] We can mostly promise that it won't. [4074.54 --> 4074.72] Yeah, [4074.78 --> 4075.14] it won't. [4075.50 --> 4075.74] Yeah. [4076.16 --> 4076.52] So, [4076.88 --> 4081.12] you should probably be on floatplane before the site launches. [4081.48 --> 4085.90] And we do not intend to announce when the site will launch because we're big douches. [4086.06 --> 4086.30] Yeah. [4087.26 --> 4088.46] We totally could, [4088.68 --> 4089.44] but we won't. [4089.54 --> 4089.72] Yep. [4089.72 --> 4091.90] So get on there. [4092.60 --> 4093.12] All right, [4093.16 --> 4093.48] guys. [4093.56 --> 4094.92] Thanks for tuning into the WAN show. [4095.00 --> 4096.00] We'll see you again next week. [4096.10 --> 4096.90] Same bat time, [4097.02 --> 4098.48] same bat channel. [4099.26 --> 4099.54] Bye. [4104.04 --> 4104.36] Okay. [4104.44 --> 4105.02] Do you mind, [4105.08 --> 4105.50] um, [4105.76 --> 4106.82] getting the merch? [4106.96 --> 4107.14] Also, [4107.22 --> 4108.32] I haven't even ended the stream yet, [4108.38 --> 4110.10] but I got to go finish shooting that thing with you. [4110.14 --> 4110.40] Okay. [4110.54 --> 4112.04] I'm also going to try to find a time for us. [4112.06 --> 4112.58] Are you still down? [4112.76 --> 4113.00] Yeah, [4113.08 --> 4114.02] I'm totally still down. [4114.12 --> 4114.36] Okay. [4116.26 --> 4116.70] Cause I, [4117.26 --> 4118.96] we definitely haven't figured out a time yet. [4118.96 --> 4119.44] Oh yeah, [4119.44 --> 4120.02] I'm sure there's some. [4120.02 --> 4120.82] I'm sure it'll be fine. [4120.94 --> 4121.06] Yeah. [4121.08 --> 4122.30] Probably like a 730. [4122.44 --> 4124.74] We can go get some fast food and then head over there. [4124.82 --> 4125.46] Fresh books. [4125.54 --> 4126.10] That works for me. [4126.14 --> 4126.40] Sounds good? [4126.56 --> 4126.74] Yep. [4126.88 --> 4127.08] Cool. [4127.50 --> 4128.02] Synergy. [4129.30 --> 4130.10] Bye everyone. [4130.50 --> 4131.34] I'm going to reset this. [4131.36 --> 4134.90] We haven't just hung out outside of work in like probably like over a year. [4134.96 --> 4135.66] So long. [4136.54 --> 4139.78] I didn't know the last time was when you came over and we talked in the living room. [4140.38 --> 4143.86] And then the time before that was when you came over and we wrote out on World's Most Comfortable. [4144.64 --> 4144.88] Yeah. [4144.88 --> 4146.02] It was like a year ago. [4146.02 --> 4146.50] Yeah. [4147.88 --> 4148.66] Bye everyone. [4148.96 --> 4150.96] Bye. [4159.60 --> 4160.00] And. [4164.34 --> 4164.66] Bye. [4177.00 --> 4177.86] Bye. [4177.86 --> 4178.06] Bye.