[0.00 --> 12.12] and we are live we're live on the wan show with our special guest jays two cents i take i take [12.12 --> 18.92] special very serious very special guest the specialist guest the greatest uh you know what's [18.92 --> 24.96] actually kind of funny is it didn't occur to me until we were already live but it is possible [24.96 --> 33.76] that we still have the lower third from no we do not somebody cleared out that folder that would [33.76 --> 38.04] have been super cool if we still had like an ancient lower third from having you on as a guest [38.04 --> 42.96] like two years ago three years ago it was probably more like three yeah wow probably more like three [42.96 --> 48.28] so um let's uh let's do a quick rundown of some of the topics that we want to discuss today actually [48.28 --> 53.68] i've got one that i'm not sure if is in the doc but jay you and i both released videos discussing the [53.68 --> 60.96] x299 platform and sort of gave some thoughts on it um you know i'd love to kind of go head to head [60.96 --> 65.08] about it and kind of exchange some of those thoughts and through the audience would love for us to flesh [65.08 --> 70.16] things out a little bit so uh i'm all about fleshing out if you know what i mean and um [71.32 --> 78.38] see how much awkward silence i can get i got a good two heartbeats there yeah yeah that was solid um [78.38 --> 84.50] and uh we've also got a lot of apple news this week that i'm sure everyone is going to have an [84.50 --> 89.14] opinion on because some of it looks amazing and some of it looks like it should be amazing but [89.14 --> 97.62] actually um wait is this seriously not not in here in detail okay that's fine we can we can get to [97.62 --> 103.84] that later so um yeah without further ado let's roll the intro and get right into this because there's [103.84 --> 110.84] a lot to cover today yep i can hear it oh right we're on the same thing now [110.84 --> 134.84] sponsors for the show savage jerky fresh books and cable mod [134.84 --> 145.46] okay so why don't we jump right into the big highlight from the i didn't put the guest up [145.46 --> 152.10] there he is uh why don't we jump into the big highlight from apple's event oh and i just realized [152.10 --> 156.20] we don't have jay when i'm sharing my screen so we're just going to have to do the screen shares [156.20 --> 162.84] really quickly so this is from the verge the eight biggest announcements from apple wwdc 2017 [162.84 --> 172.00] number one apple announces the home pod speaker to take on amazon echo and sonos [172.00 --> 181.92] so can i kick this off by saying who here actually uses and or desires my grandpa all the time same [181.92 --> 188.14] with my mom okay so tell me exactly what it is that people are using i almost have home speakers for [188.14 --> 195.16] um i think part of the idea is that it's it can be louder than your phone automatically without [195.16 --> 200.00] having your volume settings already on uh i think it's more responsive to voice from further away [200.00 --> 208.88] i'm assuming those things are uh what it's for i don't use it jay what do you uh [208.88 --> 215.42] but yeah my grandpa and my mom are both very i was so unenthusiastically like not following [215.42 --> 219.58] anything to do with apple until i saw the vega thing which i'm sure you're going to talk about but [219.58 --> 224.68] yeah yeah i was going to get to the important stuff later yeah i mean i don't know i could see like my [224.68 --> 230.20] dad who's fairly disabled liking voice command stuff but i mean i can't bring myself to get an [230.20 --> 236.86] alexa or a google home so why would i want this like i think part of the idea is if he's like watching [236.86 --> 240.72] the tv or like cooking food or something and he just doesn't even want to pull his phone out [240.72 --> 247.36] he can just talk to it and it's fine uh wait hold on a second apparently jay is way out of sync [247.36 --> 251.72] he wasn't um he looks in sync here [251.72 --> 255.94] uh [255.94 --> 256.88] uh [256.88 --> 261.64] see i bring the old tech talk mantra with me wherever i go [261.64 --> 270.22] oh it's slightly behind yeah oh people are like yeah he's way out of sync 100 to 200 milliseconds [270.22 --> 277.54] yeah it's yeah okay um i mean there's only so much you could do with video over ip right [277.54 --> 287.42] wow okay you know what i think we're just not gonna care at all so okay so basically i'll say this i i have [287.42 --> 291.84] a sonos speaker actually i have a few sonos speakers and what i really like about them is that [291.84 --> 298.60] you can turn on one room or two rooms or a bunch of rooms um i do think sonos speakers are overpriced [298.60 --> 305.96] so for apple to come in and say okay yeah we're gonna have a home speaker that um is you know sounds [305.96 --> 314.78] great and is also a competitor for sonos and also happens to have siri for if you're wondering like [314.78 --> 321.06] how tall the average giraffe is or whatever sure then i i guess there's i guess there's some utility [321.06 --> 329.44] there but i can't figure out who is actually using apple home kit stuff and i can't figure out what [329.44 --> 335.50] exactly it is that people other than me have figured out how to do with siri that's actually [335.50 --> 343.18] useful that's one of my bigger questions is because like i and i feel like it was actually better [343.18 --> 348.68] before have you had that experience i feel like my voice activated stuff has gotten worse [348.68 --> 355.92] over time almost every time i go to use siri like here let's do a live demo hey siri [355.92 --> 359.26] hey siri [359.26 --> 364.88] can you set a reminder for me to pick up my kids at 10 p.m tonight [364.88 --> 372.46] okay i'll remind you okay well whatever it managed to get it right after not hearing me the first time [372.46 --> 381.08] but like so many times it'll it'll get the uh it'll have like the time in the reminder and it'll be like [381.08 --> 386.96] oh well when would you like to do that like holy crap you literally have 10 p.m right there i don't know [386.96 --> 392.42] how i could have been much more clear than that um and i've just been so frustrated with it lately that [392.42 --> 399.40] i just can't imagine myself buying a dedicated appliance just to be mad and after three attempts [399.40 --> 404.60] pull out my phone and just freaking type it in you know when i did my sonos stuff last year uh because [404.60 --> 410.32] i i'm like you i have quite a bit of sonos stuff and it really had one selling point for me and that [410.32 --> 415.14] was the app controlled volume and whatnot because when you have toddlers and kids like me who like to [415.14 --> 420.22] crank the tv super loud it was just convenient to be upstairs be able to turn the tv down without having [420.22 --> 425.14] to yell turn the tv down like that one feature alone for me was worth it but um i mean in terms [425.14 --> 430.32] of like home assistance and and home speakers and stuff like that i don't use any of the other [430.32 --> 434.70] functionality built into the sonos with the exception of just being able to switch it and maybe stream some [434.70 --> 440.62] music spotify whatever to to play a little bit of devil's advocate i guess no one's really fighting [440.62 --> 447.62] for the other side but um i i think for like the the more normies out there i guess is that what we [447.62 --> 453.38] call them now i i guess um i think this serves actually a better use case because it fits the like [453.38 --> 460.62] super classic easy to understand dynamic of like the the person chopping vegetables in their kitchen [460.62 --> 465.46] who like randomly thinks of something and doesn't want to stop like hey can you convert three quarters [465.46 --> 469.72] of a cup to the metric system yeah and like apparently it actually does that pretty well [469.72 --> 474.62] i know your phone didn't just pick you up i could see my wife doing that yeah and like i know your phone [474.62 --> 479.72] didn't just pick you up very well but a dedicated appliance a 350 dollar appliance for that i [479.72 --> 487.48] of course though so again back to okay so there's two discussions to have here one is is this thing [487.48 --> 492.70] really that useful and the second one is will normies flock out and buy it so the first i don't know [492.70 --> 497.28] about flock out and buy it well but hold on i was about to make an argument there because when i was [497.28 --> 504.30] over in taiwan i i stayed at dennis's parents house for the first day because i our hotel wasn't [504.30 --> 512.14] available to check in yet anyway um and they actually had like so many dedicated appliances [512.14 --> 520.10] that my zero clutter lifestyle would not allow me to take for free let alone go out and buy [520.10 --> 525.40] so like zero clutter lifestyle they have uh they have at home you haven't been to my house lately [525.40 --> 533.10] have you yeah well okay i have kid stuff yeah i have kid stuff but like okay like my aunt she has [533.10 --> 539.54] everything from like she has a dedicated juicer just for lemons and limes okay okay yeah yeah she's got a [539.54 --> 545.62] noodle maker yeah she's got it okay she's got a salad spinner and i'm sitting here going you know what [545.62 --> 551.02] you know how you dry the salad you kind of shake it over the sink and you put it in the bowl it's done [551.02 --> 555.82] you know that's like it's like spending too much time on qvc or the shopping network right you just [555.82 --> 560.16] like oh that looks useful and you buy it but then you really never use it so dennis's parents own [560.16 --> 566.02] an in-home sauna and remember this is in taiwan like it's not a huge house in taiwan it's a little [566.02 --> 570.80] bit surprising but if i remember correctly in finland there's a sauna per person okay saunas are just [570.80 --> 577.82] not that popular in canada and and number two they had this like like riding thing that i posted [577.82 --> 584.26] on social media that was like an exercise device of some sort and i'm sitting here going you know [584.26 --> 590.82] that is like the erotic bode flex you know yeah i think it was for core exercises but man did it [590.82 --> 596.12] look and this is what i want to know are people not learning everyone goes out and buys a rowing [596.12 --> 605.26] machine or a treadmill or an ice cream maker everybody does it and they just keep doing it [605.26 --> 610.16] what's wrong with a rowing machine or a treadmill the fact that you use it six times what if someone [610.16 --> 616.02] does use it yeah but those people are one in a thousand yeah that's true that's we we have a [616.02 --> 623.44] chocolate fountain like those ones you'd see it like a party or a wedding yeah don't ask me why but [623.44 --> 627.70] how many times how many times did you guys use that we've never used it but we've lent it out plenty of [627.70 --> 636.84] times so basically if jay's two cents doesn't end up working out for you then you're gonna start up a [636.84 --> 645.06] like pointless bullshit white people appliances rental house kitchen loans yeah yeah yeah there is [645.06 --> 651.02] probably a business there like like my parents my parents bought the uh bought the slicer machine [651.02 --> 658.80] the like v-shaped blade where you can like slice fries out of a potato and just like one thing um [658.80 --> 665.50] we had the bamix which by the way did pay for itself in homemade mayonnaise you can make mayonnaise [665.50 --> 671.04] in like minutes with the bamix i'm not trying to sell you the bamix okay but um you know we had that [671.04 --> 676.94] one that is so i really didn't know there was that many people into homemade mayonnaise yeah i don't [676.94 --> 683.10] think there are a lot of people into it so much as there are um a few people that are really into it [683.10 --> 691.50] so that makes sense anyway my my take on the home pod is okay it's got seven beam forming speakers [691.50 --> 695.58] and a four inch subwoofer and uh apparently apple is [695.58 --> 702.82] really excited about the sound quality they're going after the sonos play 3 with extra functionality [702.82 --> 707.88] if it does all this stuff really well then great but one of the things i love so much about sonos [707.88 --> 715.38] is that whether i'm using an iphone or an android device this week i can use it regardless so i have to [715.38 --> 721.44] see how apple again that's not a use case for like almost anybody well okay i can go over to my [721.44 --> 726.56] parents house and regardless of what kind of phone i'm using i can tap into sonos and play some music [726.56 --> 731.04] which is pretty cool well how about the fact that the sonos is also its own music server too you can [731.04 --> 735.16] just offload your favorites and create playlists on the sonos on your own sonos on your own network [735.16 --> 742.08] regardless of what devices are hooked up to it isn't it just speakers uh sonos yeah no uh it's no [742.08 --> 746.96] like can it can it answer how tall is an average draft no it can't do that so then it's not really the [746.96 --> 754.56] same thing though but the logic being that if i'm gonna buy a ipod or whatever their home pod um [754.56 --> 760.28] if i'm gonna buy a home pod i probably already have one of these in my pocket now i get a lot of sonos [760.28 --> 763.98] mail because i've signed up for their stuff like one of the few newsletters i actually pay attention [763.98 --> 769.82] to and i there was some early talk like late last year early this year about there being an assistant [769.82 --> 774.24] in development so i don't know if it's gonna be a new assistant from sonos probably wouldn't be very [774.24 --> 778.90] good considering what apple and google and microsoft have been able to do in this long of a [778.90 --> 785.24] time but who knows um and considering how terrible everything is yeah yeah honestly i have no faith [785.24 --> 790.12] in a sonos home assistant i just don't need a home assistant no but you're not like here's the thing [790.12 --> 795.70] all these use cases for smart appliances let's talk smart appliances for a minute okay oh i'm gonna [795.70 --> 802.98] lose now okay all these use cases they're like yeah you can what is it you can your juicer needs to be [802.98 --> 807.28] connected to the internet you're you're also not gonna work like uh i forget who it was i think it [807.28 --> 811.64] was samsung showing a smart washer and dryer yeah and they're like yeah so you could like control [811.64 --> 817.66] your washer and dryer from a distance i'm like you mean instead of when i actually put the bloody [817.66 --> 823.86] clothes in yeah just getting notifications that your load is done could be helpful we we have an lg [823.86 --> 831.10] smart refrigerator so okay okay what's it what's it do why could why would i care it warns you like [831.10 --> 836.90] when the filters need to be changed if a door got left open if it's under temperature and a light on [836.90 --> 841.30] the front of the fridge couldn't do that well if the door got left open and you're upstairs because [841.30 --> 847.44] you're going to bed again on the front of the fridge again eight year old child we have a we have a piece [847.44 --> 852.12] of paper on our fridge at work saying please remember to close the fridge because that works [852.12 --> 858.00] for like two days to do it i'm just saying these things aren't completely useless and i think [858.00 --> 862.22] considering my comment about normies being more into google home and all right all that kind of [862.22 --> 867.72] stuff the apple home pod might do better for them than the watch did so targeting people who can't [867.72 --> 872.52] figure out how to close their fridge no but at the same time like like like you say it's not going [872.52 --> 876.96] to be very helpful for you because you won't be chopping vegetables because you're not the one [876.96 --> 883.46] now now ours doesn't at least go as far also whoa shots okay you go first jay but i have to address [883.46 --> 888.54] the shots fired over there okay ours is at least one of those ones that will like tell you what [888.54 --> 893.06] you're low of in the fridge and automatically link it to your amazon fresh cart and whatnot i mean we [893.06 --> 898.08] we do have the amazon fresh like scanner thing my wife likes to use that but there's refrigerators out [898.08 --> 901.96] there that will can tell when you're low on milk and it will like automatically order it for you [901.96 --> 906.84] okay at least we didn't go that far i can i could but i can actually see that being useful where's the [906.84 --> 910.66] more rudimentary stuff i don't know if i care as much about okay and back to your whole thing [910.66 --> 916.30] i don't need to convert metric to imperial because i actually already know these things [916.30 --> 924.58] teaspoon five mils tablespoon 15 mils i don't care one cup your conversions 250 mils a liter is [924.58 --> 930.56] approximately a quart it's a little more a gallon is four liters approximately it's about 3.75 liters [930.56 --> 937.86] okay i can convert this crap in my head i don't need an ipood i don't speak american so i need the help [937.86 --> 944.72] okay not everyone can and what if your kid asks you a question and it's a of something super weird [944.72 --> 947.78] then i'm gonna make it up because that's half the fun of being a parent [947.78 --> 958.40] daddy what what does a giraffe do all day well son giraffes actually play a lot of poker people don't [958.40 --> 963.70] know this because you look at those hoops and you think gee how do they even hold the cards [963.70 --> 971.16] but giraffes like see it's endless okay you know you make it up no problem my dad made things up to [971.16 --> 975.26] me and i turned out just fine i'd say that explains a lot [975.26 --> 987.86] brandon is yelling debatable crap brandon um all right let's talk about the new imax because i think [987.86 --> 997.98] basically this explains how amd managed to remain so secretive about vega because amd leaks everything [997.98 --> 1004.38] but it seems like if you're going to collaborate with apple and apple wants to be the one to announce [1004.38 --> 1011.02] the first desktop you know vega graphics card then people probably ran around the office going okay no [1011.02 --> 1017.84] for real this time for real this time don't leak vega okay don't leak vega apple wants to do it [1017.84 --> 1024.80] and if we don't sell them to apple we're not going to have a lot of customers so i'm salty about the [1024.80 --> 1031.46] whole thing okay all right so hit me hit me okay so am amd is kind of rebasing its whole foundation [1031.46 --> 1036.18] right of community oriented gamer oriented and we've been waiting for vega for quite a while [1036.18 --> 1041.58] right but i feel a little bit stabbed to the back by amd that they're launching it in an apple product [1041.58 --> 1046.60] first i mean that's kind of where i'm at with that so when the news came out i basically just kind [1046.60 --> 1051.50] of like facepalmed and then turned it off because at that point i just felt like i just felt like amd [1051.50 --> 1056.82] sold out on that one now it's no it's no news that amd graphics have been in macbook pros and that for [1056.82 --> 1061.88] a while but i just feel i just feel like the the vega that everyone's been waiting for [1061.88 --> 1067.84] kind of going to aim or apple first was and i i don't like it either but i'll i'm willing to give [1067.84 --> 1073.74] them a little bit of benefit of the doubt listening to what you're saying i hear that but we all know [1073.74 --> 1078.62] that they need as much money as possible so if there was some amount of like they're going to [1078.62 --> 1084.16] make more from this if there's some amount of temporary exclusivity deal or something then i'm [1084.16 --> 1088.24] willing to give it to them because like if it's only if it's only vega pro then i guess that kind of [1088.24 --> 1091.72] makes sense but i mean we're still waiting for more kind of gamer or mainstream vega but [1091.72 --> 1098.12] still that's fair right now to my knowledge apple is the only tier one computer maker [1098.12 --> 1108.68] that not forget about being exclusive to amd radeon apple is the only tier one pc maker that even [1108.68 --> 1116.18] emphasizes amd radeon so i do understand why apple is getting some special treatment here because [1116.18 --> 1121.70] even like so i got a press release today that acer is doing like a 799 budget gaming desktop [1121.70 --> 1127.82] i was actually thinking yeah we might actually pull it in for review because it's uh uh it's ryzen [1127.82 --> 1136.46] based okay yeah they still put a 1050 in it wow and it's just like okay so part of the problem is [1136.46 --> 1142.38] that supply is really tight on the rx cards because cryptocurrency mining is again uh super important [1142.38 --> 1149.58] again came back around but part of it too is that like they're competitive but they're they're not like [1149.58 --> 1155.58] uh they're not like a you know a green team crushing solution at at any level in the product stack [1155.58 --> 1163.04] that's what shad is so salty that you said tier one what tier one is like a it's a term you can define [1163.04 --> 1171.42] i know it's not it's not an opinion so upset i mean they're gonna hate who the rest of the tier ones are [1171.42 --> 1180.60] okay dell hp lenovo what what did you think what did you think i was gonna say like asus msi [1180.60 --> 1188.84] i'm sorry those guys okay those guys are tier one motherboard manufacturers [1188.84 --> 1199.00] yeah but in the pc system space all the enterprise they are way behind okay i'm sorry get over it [1199.00 --> 1208.38] um so let's talk a little bit about the device that vega graphics are going into um i may do a [1208.38 --> 1213.66] dedicated video on this actually just kind of discussing this but jay hit me with your thoughts [1213.66 --> 1222.90] on an imac pro um okay so should i should i do some approximate specs for the viewers before [1222.90 --> 1228.28] you kind of launch into it or yeah because i was kind of pulling up something sure okay so let's let's do [1228.28 --> 1235.46] some context for you guys so much like the mac pro this is a balls to the wall machine we're talking [1235.46 --> 1243.92] up to 18 core xeon we're talking up to 128 gigs of ecc ram we're talking radeon vega graphics a 5k [1243.92 --> 1251.18] display four thunderbolt 3 ports with support for external gpus so that vega gpu however they're [1251.18 --> 1258.06] implementing it whether it's mxm or whether it's baked right into the pcb um is upgradable in a manner of [1258.06 --> 1265.70] speaking up to a 4 terabyte ssd a 10-bit panel new black peripherals because that's important uh [1265.70 --> 1273.78] uh uhs2 sdxd card slot might be into the home pod enough it is 500 watt power supply 1080p webcam [1273.78 --> 1280.90] starting at five thousand dollars i mean this to me looks like a pretty bananas machine [1280.90 --> 1289.02] but it's in an all-in-one yeah uh i'm a little surprised that they spent so much emphasis on [1289.02 --> 1293.22] specs because given kind of where they've been over like let's just say the last eight years [1293.22 --> 1301.10] um i mean you can still buy an i7 dual core right macbook pro so it just seems it just seems kind of [1301.10 --> 1305.96] surprising to me that they actually are going with the top tier hardware this time around because apple's [1305.96 --> 1311.22] always been about software um optimizations right yes so i'm kind of wondering experience you buy a [1311.22 --> 1316.58] product not a spec sheet right i mean given the experience given the price to specs i don't think [1316.58 --> 1320.92] and the fact that it's apple i actually don't think that that price is really like out of whack i think [1320.92 --> 1324.74] it's right in line with where it should be because you you could build a similar intel based system with [1324.74 --> 1330.70] the same specs and spend just as much yeah and that's that's true depending though on what we are [1330.70 --> 1337.26] actually getting for five grand because that might be maybe that's not vega and maybe that's i mean [1337.26 --> 1341.04] it's certainly not an 18 right because it does it does say it starts it does say it starts with [1341.04 --> 1347.08] the eight cores zion so that would be maybe is it eight core is does it have eight gigs of ram right [1347.08 --> 1352.56] like we don't roll up to 15k yeah you never know how much apple's going to kneecap something honestly [1352.56 --> 1357.72] for me the thing that i'm that i really take exception with and the thing that again i might do like [1357.72 --> 1364.64] some kind of a follow-up video on here is that they're that that they're calling it pro that [1364.64 --> 1372.44] people that the pro users got upset when they took away the tower that you can put expansion cards in [1372.44 --> 1381.44] and they gave us a cylinder that you can clip that you can plug expansion devices into and that now [1381.44 --> 1386.56] you know and they did say earlier this year that they're gonna have something to address the pro user [1386.56 --> 1394.04] i guess what i want to know is was this it because to me professional means modular [1394.04 --> 1401.04] upgradable it it means a path to continue using it and the other thing that really upsets me and that [1401.04 --> 1409.06] makes that makes apple's desktop ecosystem almost impossible to support as a business owner is the [1409.06 --> 1415.28] unpredictability of it yeah if we go back for the last 10 years so we we just upgraded our editing [1415.28 --> 1419.48] workstations it was kind of time it had been three almost four years something like that [1419.48 --> 1427.68] and so let's say over a span of 10 years if our company were to have followed a typical upgrade [1427.68 --> 1434.68] cycle of three to four years we would have had towers we would have had cylinders we would have [1434.68 --> 1440.24] been stuck with old cylinders thinking holy crap are we going to have to just go straight to laptops [1440.24 --> 1446.52] and then apple would have dumped an ai o on us with that hold on a second i mean what if we just [1446.52 --> 1452.84] upgraded our displays apparently no the new pro version is coming probably sometime in 2018 okay [1452.84 --> 1458.50] which still doesn't address my fundamental problem with apple not having a clear strategy [1458.50 --> 1464.94] in a professional environment i need to know what my upgrade path is right so that if i'm going to [1464.94 --> 1471.44] invest in a bunch of brand new 8k displays from dell let's say exactly i need to know that the new [1471.44 --> 1477.46] machine that i'm going to have available to me is going to make any sense oh wait oh this one comes [1477.46 --> 1485.40] with uh with uh with a display already in it like i just i don't understand apple's pro lineup um so [1485.40 --> 1489.64] that's kind of where i'm that's kind of where i'm going with that is this the first imac pro though [1489.64 --> 1495.02] i'm not sure yes it is i think so okay yep so they're just they're just introducing then the [1495.02 --> 1499.80] new pro line of imacs but for the so then okay based on the hardware available in the imac are you [1499.80 --> 1505.14] is the new macbook pro or excuse me the new mac pro coming out in 2018 going to be essentially the [1505.14 --> 1509.34] same hardware in a tower format with ai o water cooling again i mean i have to kind of wonder what [1509.34 --> 1515.48] the next tier of hardware could be i kind of wonder too like i i would love for apple to just go [1515.48 --> 1522.56] straight back to basics here's a tower here's where the expansion cards go here's how you add [1522.56 --> 1527.92] a freaking hard drive that's connected to a sata interface instead of connected to a thunderbolt [1527.92 --> 1532.14] interface for some reason their desktop side of their enterprise has always been more concerned [1532.14 --> 1533.72] with the form factor than anything else [1533.72 --> 1543.84] yeah so i don't know that's that's where i'm at on that i'm glad that they do have a legitimate [1543.84 --> 1551.94] professional you know high-end great option but um i'm i'm frustrated that pro products are being [1551.94 --> 1553.58] treated as basically disposable [1553.58 --> 1562.48] other than being able to upgrade the graphics which is good but the fact that we're doing this over [1562.48 --> 1568.52] thunderbolt means that there is going to be some kind of bottleneck that exists already and can only [1568.52 --> 1574.08] get worse so we did a fairly thorough i think investigation where we looked at alienware's [1574.08 --> 1582.10] graphics amplifier versus the razor core and found that already with a top tier 1080 ti there are [1582.10 --> 1587.50] performance differences between a straight pcie interface and thunderbolt 3 with all the extra [1587.50 --> 1593.62] overhead and people criticized us they said well linus no one's going to put a 1080 ti in that thing [1593.62 --> 1598.38] and i'm sitting here going well that wasn't the point the point is that three years from now when [1598.38 --> 1603.32] it is time to upgrade your graphics card something with the power of a 1080 ti is going to cost 199 [1603.32 --> 1609.82] yeah and that's exactly what you're going to put in it yeah well i played around thunderbolt 3 for the [1609.82 --> 1615.44] first time earlier this year with you know the external graphics card solutions and i saw the same [1615.44 --> 1619.36] thing you did in fact it was so the performance degradation was so bad over even thunderbolt 3 [1619.36 --> 1626.06] that i had to get confirmation that the anywhere between 25 to 35 performance loss was normal and [1626.06 --> 1630.78] i said oh yeah that's normal okay then what's the point of buying top tier graphics like this when [1630.78 --> 1636.48] it's just going to dumb down to a tier or two lower on the graphics solutions so like you like you're [1636.48 --> 1640.32] saying though if using an interface like that is the option to stay forward compatible then you're [1640.32 --> 1644.24] just cutting yourself off at the knees and the ankles and everything as you go forward one note about [1644.24 --> 1648.20] this new iMac i don't know what versions i know there's the pro and i believe there's non-pro new [1648.20 --> 1652.28] versions the only thing i've seen is of the non-pro but i'm assuming it's the same for both [1652.28 --> 1658.60] the cpu and the ram are both replaceable yep that was true of previous iMacs but not gpu still but [1658.60 --> 1666.20] not like we're talking about anyways okay so that's frustrating um and i i kind of doubt people are [1666.20 --> 1671.90] going to be super hardcore throttled by at least the cpu part of that you might be able to get away with [1671.90 --> 1675.90] the classic mac thing where you buy the one with less ram and then upgrade the ram yourself because it's [1675.90 --> 1682.64] way freaking cheaper but who knows i don't know it's interesting yeah so i don't know i still [1682.64 --> 1686.76] haven't decided if i'm going to do a piece on it it kind of depends whether i can sort of come up with [1686.76 --> 1690.78] a coherent enough argument but it is something that i've wanted to talk about for quite some time [1690.78 --> 1697.90] apple's sort of schizophrenic approach to professional products studio versus mac pro oh lordy i don't well [1697.90 --> 1707.32] i don't necessarily so it's too early in the surface product uh lineup yeah for me to really talk about [1707.32 --> 1713.04] you know uh microsoft strategy because right now it's really hard to tell what it is i i can't discuss [1713.04 --> 1719.98] um one creator family whatever that really means yeah whatever creator means i mean this thing spanks [1719.98 --> 1725.34] the surface studio on paper anyway performance wise definitely yeah and upgradability wise even [1725.34 --> 1732.78] yeah the surface studio is horrible nightmare to get into yeah um so should we do the big announcement [1732.78 --> 1738.22] the reason that jay's on the show today oh yeah should we do that now actually you know what [1738.22 --> 1744.84] no what we're gonna do is do it after the ads okay so why don't we uh why don't we do our sponsor [1744.84 --> 1749.42] call outs first yeah um hold on i just want to do uh i want to do a quick tweet do you want to start [1749.42 --> 1754.50] one of them and then uh jade should we just we'll just uh we'll just put you away for now okay i'll [1754.50 --> 1760.26] i'll duck out of the way okay cool uh i'm gonna conveniently start with savage jerky yeah dog yeah [1760.26 --> 1767.38] dog can i have some which is this a new box this is not a new box i'm oh okay uh oh yeah probably i [1767.38 --> 1773.14] mean how does jerky go bad yeah okay should i take on the reaper today what did you do last time i don't [1773.14 --> 1779.44] remember i think i did the second hottest one that like has more that's five bars uh yeah the [1779.44 --> 1784.24] reaper's five bars so savage jerky fairly self-explanatory it's it's it's jerky or you can get [1784.24 --> 1789.38] bacon actually make maple bacon that's mine you don't get any maple bacon get wrecked where's my [1789.38 --> 1796.08] favorite one i'm gonna do the do we have a carolina reaper that's already open um there we go there we go [1796.08 --> 1802.32] yeah we got we got an open one this one's not as popular just to eat for lols because it uh [1802.32 --> 1806.46] oh no we don't have an open one i don't think we've done this one since the last spot because [1806.46 --> 1812.86] if you're into spicy jerky this is like for you crazy i'm not that into spicy jerky there we go [1812.86 --> 1819.26] mojo habanero that's my favorite one they all come with generally four bars of heat on the front so to [1819.26 --> 1825.72] tell you how hot it is mojo habanero is a three the reaper is special it comes with five bars and [1825.72 --> 1831.74] they're all filled because it is just more hot than freaking anything savage jerky is a sponsor of ours [1831.74 --> 1837.14] they they use the best ingredients without nitrates or preservatives um their goal is to create a [1837.14 --> 1842.28] snack that is full of flavor and spice and won't actually be bad for you apparently their inspiration [1842.28 --> 1847.64] came from the flavor of garlic lime and cilantro i believe that you can taste it in almost all of [1847.64 --> 1851.92] them if you can still if you still have taste buds that work yeah if you go for the reaper you might [1851.92 --> 1856.24] want to taste it for long they'll taste it for a little bit at the start and then it goes away i don't [1856.24 --> 1862.26] fear the reaper or the wind or the rain we can be like they are come on baby apparently outside of [1862.26 --> 1867.78] this just the traditional flavors most people go for sriracha bacon or maple buffalo bacon which makes [1867.78 --> 1873.08] sense so good linus's preferences but yeah they're pretty freaking good they have a whole bunch of [1873.08 --> 1877.08] different flavors they're really into the spicy stuff and savage if you're into that so you can check [1877.08 --> 1883.76] them out over at savage jerky.com and uh once i figure out how to get the package open because apparently [1883.76 --> 1889.70] they don't have stupid people proof packaging and i mean i've i've opened them all flawlessly but [1889.70 --> 1895.16] anyways you know what i've had enough of your crap what the heck if you use offer code ltp you'll so [1895.16 --> 1903.12] you'll save 10 on your order which is okay so now i get to do the other two ad spots with some pain [1903.12 --> 1913.90] heck yeah heck yeah okay well join cable mods cable modders group on facebook and enter [1913.90 --> 1921.66] for a chance to win um i took it to ltx oh yeah okay maybe you better do this [1921.66 --> 1929.02] or bye ltx 17 2017 is coming up um you're gonna be able to meet everyone on the team here [1929.02 --> 1933.18] which is pretty cool and you'll be able to participate in a whole bunch of different like [1933.18 --> 1937.58] booths and events that we're gonna have going on we have locked in the uh the carnival games [1937.58 --> 1942.58] so like the run and stretcher thing and it pulls you back what what all ones are gonna be there we're [1942.58 --> 1952.82] gonna have like six different ones um do you need something no i'm fine okay brandon has soylent if you [1952.82 --> 1957.80] want to buy some soylent off him and it actually works quite well no i'm fine okay i'm gonna keep going [1957.80 --> 1963.46] because i think he lost track of his thing um outside of the carnival games there's gonna be a [1963.46 --> 1968.42] bunch of other booths uh like i'm gonna be doing a vr booth i've got them be editing things so we're [1968.42 --> 1975.42] gonna have the bungee run we're gonna have the hamster ball race to race we're gonna have the [1975.42 --> 1981.50] pedestal joust oh that's cool we're gonna have sumo wrestling motorized world cup soccer which [1981.50 --> 1987.90] which is basically um uh rocket league in real life yeah and soft-sided money booth oh we're gonna [1987.90 --> 1993.02] have a money booth that's pretty cool i'm not sure how that works but sure i have no idea how that [1993.02 --> 1998.60] works um but yeah if you if you check out their site uh you can enter to win tickets to that you'll [1998.60 --> 2005.58] still have to get there oh wow no two people who win will get hotel and airfare covered yeah so you [2005.58 --> 2011.14] guys are winning hotel airfare and the premium ticket the limo tour of the office dang so cable [2011.14 --> 2016.12] mod is sponsoring the crap out of that so go join their cable modders group over on facebook for a [2016.12 --> 2020.94] chance to win it's just facebook.com forward slash cable modders which is pretty straightforward [2020.94 --> 2027.24] giveaway is limited to those in north america only and the winner will be drawn on june 12th there [2027.24 --> 2029.96] will be a link in the video description as well if you're watching this on youtube [2029.96 --> 2035.26] yeah but yeah you guys have seen cable mod cables we've used them in tons of different stuff [2035.26 --> 2040.50] i use them in my personal rig we use them in probably most of our builds we use them in most [2040.50 --> 2044.48] of our builds at this point basically they're awesome there's no reason not not to love those [2044.48 --> 2050.72] guys um and they do other stuff now too like the other guy who's the other guy whose name i always [2050.72 --> 2055.52] forget he's the bomb too you did a pretty good job with that with what that jerky how much did you [2055.52 --> 2061.58] honestly i only had probably about a piece this big yeah eating a whole one of those is like [2061.58 --> 2068.86] really rough you gotta be hardcore okay last sponsor is freshbooks head over to freshbooks.com [2068.86 --> 2075.46] slash when and claim your free trial today freshbooks makes it easy to keep track of your hours [2075.46 --> 2083.32] your expenses your invoice and anything else that you need for your small business freshbooks lets you [2083.32 --> 2089.26] get a new bill on your own terms so you can accept deposits you can accept payment through the app you [2089.26 --> 2094.90] can see when a client has seen your invoice so if little sally's mom claims that oh she 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--> 2147.24] trial today also we love those freshbooks guys because they sponsored scrapyard wars and we bring [2147.24 --> 2155.04] jay back in now so jay you want to do the honors what exactly why why why were you in the credits [2155.04 --> 2161.62] for all the episodes did you take away my bacon no where did my bacon go never take a man's bacon [2161.62 --> 2166.08] no that oh wait yeah that is the buffalo okay i'm not upset anymore okay okay carry on sorry i was [2166.08 --> 2171.00] about to get real real angry because i thought my bacon jerky was gone okay carry on jay no i think [2171.00 --> 2175.36] it's funny because uh i think ed put the credits up right after the first episode i think the credits [2175.36 --> 2180.80] were up and showed me there um yep right next to jonathan who uh because it said in there thanks for [2180.80 --> 2186.16] loaning equipment when we needed it and other uh stuff right and some folks there's some pretty sharp [2186.16 --> 2189.60] people out there in the audience and they were like oh i guess we know who the celebrity judge is and i was [2189.60 --> 2193.72] like no clearly i loaned them equipment that's why i'm down here and ed like liked that tweet he's [2193.72 --> 2197.28] like oh yeah because i was trying to i this is probably the hardest secret i ever kept we're like [2197.28 --> 2203.60] what three months like three months past this it's been um yeah so i was the the guest celebrity judge [2203.60 --> 2212.20] on the rgb factor uh-huh so uh scrapyard wars episode four have you seen it yet i have you have okay [2212.20 --> 2219.36] okay so you got early access to it so scrapyard wars episode four is coming this weekend [2219.36 --> 2226.40] i think it's going to be on sunday and uh without any spoilers i think it's fair to say this [2226.40 --> 2239.86] jay is a very impactful member of the cast for the fourth and final episode he not only you know [2239.86 --> 2246.74] did what he did as our celebrity guest he also lent us his studio space which was very generous and he [2246.74 --> 2252.22] hung out with us until the wee hours of the morning because how many messages did i send you [2252.22 --> 2256.66] saying yeah hey we're not coming yet it's going to be later hey actually it's going to be later [2256.66 --> 2264.62] can we just stand around for a little while i i i i think it is an opportunity to sit on the couch [2264.62 --> 2268.92] here and watch some tv and some netflix something i never get to do because i cleaned the studio right [2268.92 --> 2272.24] i was like okay i want a fresh slate for you guys to be able to set up however you want it to you [2272.24 --> 2276.16] know take take rein of the space and i only moved in two weeks prior to that so it was pretty empty [2276.16 --> 2279.64] right compared to now like you have to you have to walk sideways to go down the hallway but [2279.64 --> 2286.38] yeah um no it was it was it was fun because i got to see scrapyard wars for the first time literally [2286.38 --> 2292.82] from the finale backwards because it's like okay i see how it ends i know how it ends but i have no [2292.82 --> 2297.12] idea how we got here so it was really weird even for me you know because i knew you kept sending [2297.12 --> 2300.50] these texts like we're delayed we're sorry we're delayed we're sorry and i'm just like oh my god what is [2300.50 --> 2303.62] going on over there i'm thinking this better make for some good drama and it didn't disappoint [2303.62 --> 2309.88] so for those of you who want to watch scrapyard wars episode four early i'm actually posting a [2309.88 --> 2315.64] link in the chat floatplane club is um our early access platform that we've got over on the linus [2315.64 --> 2319.88] tech tips forum that we would love to open up to other creators at some point [2319.88 --> 2330.12] sorry i think some of those costs are legitimate because the jerky [2330.12 --> 2334.98] not all of them but this is the maple bacon jerky oh okay no this stuff's fine [2334.98 --> 2339.00] yeah um only only the worst of content creators would consider such a platform [2339.00 --> 2343.04] yeah early access it does nothing but hurt the audience [2343.04 --> 2349.16] except when they don't notice that it's happening yeah except when that happens yeah uh also you [2349.16 --> 2352.96] know it kind of helps the creator there is the whole adpocalypse thing going on [2352.96 --> 2358.58] yeah that's i don't know if anybody noticed that yeah um all right okay but that's literally [2358.58 --> 2362.82] killing should we get back to maybe about 10 more minutes of news and then um we'll bid adieu [2362.82 --> 2370.30] to jay and bring on nicky v for one final land show stream yeah do it um actually okay we kind [2370.30 --> 2376.50] of touched on this but this is sort of uh sort of a big deal amd's gpu supply exhausted by [2376.50 --> 2381.90] cryptocurrency so i'll go ahead and screen share here real quick here so if you've been running out [2381.90 --> 2389.52] there trying to buy an rx 470 or r excuse me 570 sorry any of them honestly freudian slip [2389.52 --> 2397.74] a 570 or a 580 um yeah you've probably had a bit of a hard time because people are let's see [2397.74 --> 2402.64] let's have a look at what this stuff is so what are these coins i don't even know have you been [2402.64 --> 2407.34] keeping up with this jay only a little bit oh see i i realized it was starting to pick back up [2407.34 --> 2411.18] in popularity when it was becoming difficult to source this because i'm i'm getting to the point [2411.18 --> 2415.04] where i'm just kind of buying and building the systems on my own right and not taking sponsorship [2415.04 --> 2421.44] on everything so i went and tried to legitimately buy these for for a video and i'm like i can't get [2421.44 --> 2426.30] any rx based graphics card 400 or 500 series uh and it was just like what the heck so i started [2426.30 --> 2430.42] researching it and it seems like we've gone full circle right because at the beginning everyone [2430.42 --> 2435.42] wanted less power consumption and and they wanted the out of camera with the what it's actually called [2435.42 --> 2440.22] when they do the hashing or whatever right and they wanted um they wanted more efficiency on that so [2440.22 --> 2444.18] they kind of started coming across with these custom built computers i think jerry did a really [2444.18 --> 2449.20] good video about uh you know the progression of bitcoin mining and then i don't understand how we [2449.20 --> 2454.98] got back to here though well it looks like it's ethereum mining that people are really into right now [2454.98 --> 2462.02] ethereum okay yeah so um i actually had someone internally pitching to me that we should do a bitcoin [2462.02 --> 2467.80] mining update and i was like not bitcoin but cryptocurrency mining update and i was like oh really that again [2467.80 --> 2471.26] and i didn't really look into it i really should have because then we could have been a little bit [2471.26 --> 2476.62] more uh more topical on it pretty huge yeah but there you go what's what's happening again bitcoin [2476.62 --> 2482.90] right now because no matter what people are mining they're all converting it out anyway so yeah bitcoin [2482.90 --> 2489.30] is equal to 3,794 canadian dollars so there's a big gold rush again basically yeah i can try to find [2489.30 --> 2494.44] us dollars which is that's one whole bitcoin right because i think they also you get them in bits [2494.44 --> 2502.84] right yes you get partial so it's 2,824 ish us dollars per bitcoin which is huge if you can see [2502.84 --> 2510.08] the here hold on what did you search um just one btc to usd so i'm gonna go ahead and share that with [2510.08 --> 2517.50] the audience here yeah so there you go the charts you can see you can see the big yeah you can see it [2517.50 --> 2526.02] pop up big gold rush back in 2014 late 2013 early 2014 no sorry that was mid 2014 yeah and it was [2526.02 --> 2532.02] across the thousand and it was news mm-hmm and then in the last since since the end of last year it's [2532.02 --> 2538.38] gone from like 500 bucks to over 2,000 and it's it's very close to over 3k which is pretty insane [2538.38 --> 2547.98] yeah pretty incredible so once again i've missed out once again i suck at everything but i'm i'm over [2547.98 --> 2556.78] it uh what else we got here um pci express 4.0 specs finalized the original articles from tech report [2556.78 --> 2565.62] and also in other news pci express 5.0 is announced hooray so it's going to be 16 giga transfers per second [2565.62 --> 2577.20] on tap so basically we're doubling it again um so that's really important on the server side of [2577.20 --> 2583.18] things and less important for consumers yeah i mean i guess it's cool in the sense that like [2583.18 --> 2588.90] consumer platforms that don't have as many pci e lanes will be able to run like i mean at this point [2588.90 --> 2596.84] you're going to be able to run in what a 1x slot or like a like a 4x slot what you used to be able [2596.84 --> 2602.04] to run in a hold on a second so that would be an 8x a 16 okay hold on a second you're going to be [2602.04 --> 2606.22] able to run in like a 2x slot which i believe does exist but no one implements it if i recall correctly [2606.22 --> 2612.46] what you would have been able to run in a 16x slot back in gen 1 so that's that's cool right it's [2612.46 --> 2618.46] pretty cool that's cool are we excited throwing stuff into big 16x slot things isn't really going to be a [2618.46 --> 2626.16] big difference though um yeah so it still needs to undergo a final review but um scale of 1 to 10 [2626.16 --> 2634.58] jay how excited eh i mean i i don't do my workflow doesn't really matter that much on on pci throughput [2634.58 --> 2641.74] but yeah is there a timeline on that um well right now it still needs a couple little things um one big [2641.74 --> 2649.12] question is whether or not amd and intel will even bother to implement pcie gen 4 on consumer parts [2649.12 --> 2656.50] in which case yeah the timeline could be who knows yeah um on the server side of things though pcie gen [2656.50 --> 2663.28] 5 which will double it again uh designed to offer 128 gigabytes per second of total bandwidth will [2663.28 --> 2670.38] allow us to have 400 gigabit per second ethernet solutions so like that's super sick that's cool [2670.38 --> 2678.08] so that's like amazing yeah um oh this is fun we're already like we have like no contact at samsung [2678.08 --> 2684.80] whatsoever because we suck um but we saw this earlier this morning we were like yeah need to get our [2684.80 --> 2691.80] hands on some of that samsung announced i think it's a 32 by 1 32 by 9 sorry uh wide aspect ratio [2691.80 --> 2696.36] monitor have you seen this have you heard about this yeah it's like three four by threes yeah [2696.36 --> 2705.26] that's ridiculous it that's that is curved right yeah it is yeah with free sync yeah for gamers [2705.26 --> 2715.62] that's pretty wild 144 hertz 1 ms response time hdr 10 free sync 2 quantum dot all the things all the [2715.62 --> 2723.00] all the buzzwords samsung's one of those companies where like they have world-class display technology [2723.00 --> 2730.40] and just no idea yeah like i stopped by their booth i think it was like two ces's ago and they [2730.40 --> 2737.08] were showing off like a free sync monitor and they didn't have the refresh rate and nobody in the whole [2737.08 --> 2741.96] booth i swear i asked like eight people including like the guy who was in charge of the monitor section [2741.96 --> 2748.86] knew the refresh rate and i'm just like you know that's actually like the important spec [2748.86 --> 2753.24] well it's kind of like monitor right now it's kind of like when i was shopping at uh fries electronics [2753.24 --> 2757.34] i don't know if you guys have those up there but fries is a big electronic store here in the states and [2757.34 --> 2760.92] yeah uh i was shopping for panels and i was looking at high refresh rate stuff [2760.92 --> 2767.10] and they had them all hooked up to hdmi so it was like not a single panel was actually displaying [2767.10 --> 2771.50] anything towards like what it possibly could and when i tried to explain to the to the manager of [2771.50 --> 2775.66] that section i was like you need to put display ports on these uh he was like no it's hdmi it's [2775.66 --> 2782.88] fine it carries audio too i'm like yeah so basically not the point dude my wife was with me on that one [2782.88 --> 2786.42] and even she knew more and she like doesn't care about any of this stuff she was like yeah i don't [2786.42 --> 2793.76] think that's supposed to look that way oh man terrible all right last one before we bring on nicky v [2793.76 --> 2801.10] uh intel coffee lake cpus delayed so the rumor that intel is going to be releasing [2801.10 --> 2808.28] six and four core coffee lake uh processors on their mainstream platform [2808.28 --> 2814.76] uh this year it seems to have been quashed it will instead be apparently and this is all rumors um [2814.76 --> 2821.52] sometime in february of 2018 can you imagine how much of a better position intel would be in today [2821.52 --> 2829.76] if they had brought six core before amd launched ryzen yeah if kb lake was six core [2829.76 --> 2834.96] i i think they could have but they got very complacent over the last decade on their on their [2834.96 --> 2840.44] own roadmap and they just kept pushing stuff off i think this should begin the linus and jay collab [2840.44 --> 2847.66] angry session the the angry the the anger the 299 talk i want to i want to say something real quick [2847.66 --> 2853.12] i took a lot of flack like oh just copying linus because he had a viral video i said that day in [2853.12 --> 2857.72] computex i looked at nick and i said monday we're recording this we're recording my thoughts on this [2857.72 --> 2862.42] this is days before you and i ever talked about it and before your video ever went up the difference [2862.42 --> 2866.80] is you took advantage of walking in the rain you took advantage of walking in the rain you went for [2866.80 --> 2871.80] that whole like depressing i'm surprised that whoever edited that video didn't put a gray hue on there too [2871.80 --> 2875.94] and just make it super depressing but i saw that video and i was like you son of a bitch [2875.94 --> 2884.04] but no i i i had i had to do it anyway um i mean there's so many things you can talk about right [2884.04 --> 2887.86] i mean i shot that video like four times because i kept kind of dumbing it down i was like i i was [2887.86 --> 2892.36] rambling so long on that and but there's so many things that are wrong with that all the way down to [2892.36 --> 2900.94] uh a paywall for raid i mean what the hell man i just i like that one i don't even know because like [2900.94 --> 2906.60] i'll tell you this like even on the server side so i recently rolled out an nvme storage server [2906.60 --> 2914.58] so it's got 48 nvme bays and i actually had some issues with intel's rst enterprise drivers [2914.58 --> 2922.02] where it's limited to maximum 12 drives and that was just like a tech limitation that was like a driver [2922.02 --> 2926.02] limitation it wasn't like a paywall thing they weren't asking for anything it just straight up [2926.02 --> 2934.26] had no way to do that um and i actually wanted to run cheapo rste raid 5 on that high speed nas [2934.26 --> 2941.32] and the reason for that is that i'm doing real-time replication of that nas to a separate box so [2941.32 --> 2947.00] ultimately if i only have one drive of redundancy or it just kind of craps the bed i'm going to switch [2947.00 --> 2950.08] everybody over we're going to be editing off the other box while i rebuild it and get everything i [2950.08 --> 2955.46] mean it'll be inconvenient but it's not the end of the world yeah so i couldn't do that because of [2955.46 --> 2960.52] like a driver limitation well now i'm wondering if i'm not going to be able to do that unless i buy [2960.52 --> 2966.30] an expensive dongle yeah because if they're doing it on x299 yeah get like two more minutes uh if [2966.30 --> 2970.10] they're doing it on x299 then they're probably going to do it on the server side too right [2970.10 --> 2975.42] i guess they could probably go both ways right if you're if you're already paying the enterprise [2975.42 --> 2981.34] solutions on on the on the server side of things maybe it would be implemented but then again that kind [2981.34 --> 2986.30] of sucks too i mean because then you're talking about double standards in terms of of their of [2986.30 --> 2992.06] their just uh their mentality regarding how how they want to implement and roll out this stuff to [2992.06 --> 2997.38] me this honestly feels like they just were caught off guard by a lot of of things happening in the [2997.38 --> 3003.62] industry right now and i feel like what has kind of flipped on them a little bit is their official [3003.62 --> 3007.60] response regarding ryzen was they felt like the consumers are going to take a wait and see mentality [3007.60 --> 3011.82] regarding how well they want to adopt ryzen i think i feel like everyone jumped on ryzen and [3011.82 --> 3018.08] now everyone wants to wait and see with intel yep because and that is such an ignorant like why would [3018.08 --> 3022.58] why would people wait and see wait and see what you're either building a computer or you're not [3022.58 --> 3027.42] yeah and of course ryzen like every other new launch had some had some growing pains in the start but so [3027.42 --> 3032.18] did x99 you know and so i mean it's one of those things where like today and that was a big thing i [3032.18 --> 3036.36] asked a lot of the the motherboard manufacturers and odms out there at computex was [3036.36 --> 3040.70] are things better on ryzen now and they all really assured me like yeah things have matured the [3040.70 --> 3046.72] drivers are good the memory stability and support is there um compatibility is is good and they [3046.72 --> 3051.22] basically were telling me like hey you should you should maybe try out ryzen a bit again because i [3051.22 --> 3055.34] did it for the first 30 days at lunch had a couple of weird idiosyncrasies there but then i just [3055.34 --> 3060.32] kind of moved on to my intel system which is already together and i use it for work yeah but i find [3060.32 --> 3065.74] myself now like okay i should probably i should probably take another crack at it but i i would [3065.74 --> 3070.70] love to see the thread ripper stuff only because like just like your workflow it's like i would i [3070.70 --> 3076.26] could take advantage of all those cores yeah um but even the 1800x is a good is a good place to to [3076.26 --> 3082.84] look at for absolutely cheap enterprise solution i wouldn't convert all of our editing machines over [3082.84 --> 3087.66] anytime soon just because like i mean you know what we're gonna have a video coming out where we roll [3087.66 --> 3094.96] all of our editing machines up to 10 core uh 69 50 x's and already on our early access people are [3094.96 --> 3100.14] like yo what what the heck intel has new stuff what about thread ripper what about this what about that [3100.14 --> 3107.16] stability is important and i'm i've responded there and i'll respond proactively now to everybody else [3107.16 --> 3116.58] um it is no coincidence that about six months or four months before x99 launched all our editing [3116.58 --> 3123.80] machines moved to 49 60 x's on x79 yeah there is something to be said for something that is [3123.80 --> 3130.66] powerful enough and has had three years to work out all the potential issues when you're talking about [3130.66 --> 3138.20] a workstation for what we do for what we do maturity is way better for us than just raw power and cutting [3138.20 --> 3141.88] edge bleeding edge technology they call it bleeding edge for a reason yeah and if it was for myself [3141.88 --> 3147.00] no problem i'll run whatever random crap beta drivers whatever but if i have a room of not [3147.00 --> 3150.74] necessarily techie people that are going to come to me every time there's an issue with it yeah [3150.74 --> 3156.64] no man i like this is your 50 x isn't new either uh no it's not that's exactly immediately when [3156.64 --> 3162.02] it launched i'm doing exactly the same thing yeah i'm going at the end of the platform cycle yeah and [3162.02 --> 3168.60] i have no problem with that out of curiosity um what's your take on 6950x versus 7900k then [3168.60 --> 3177.54] or excuse me 6900k so any particular reason the xq um because the whole upgrade was sponsored by intel [3177.54 --> 3182.94] and if i can ask for anything i want i might as well take the 6950x it does perform in my benchmarking [3182.94 --> 3187.26] i did a whole video on this a while back marginally better got it [3187.26 --> 3195.46] margin plus plus you just x just sounds cooler yeah that's why they have x on all the new ones [3195.46 --> 3201.16] anyway thanks jay um i have to give the people what they want guys if you love jay then you can [3201.16 --> 3207.72] check him out over at youtube.com slash jays two cents that's j with a z not to be confused with j z [3207.72 --> 3217.80] that guy has a dash jays does not um also over on twitter at uh at angry tech man who's who's salty [3217.80 --> 3222.12] about stuff no wait what is what is your twitter handle again it's at jays two cents right yeah i'm [3222.12 --> 3229.86] cross-branded properly hey i've had enough of your crap man all right anyway so guys go check out j [3229.86 --> 3233.86] over there thanks j for coming on the show and i'm sorry i have to kind of kick you off everyone watch [3233.86 --> 3237.60] episode four go yes do that all right thanks for having me [3237.60 --> 3241.74] okay thanks man i'm just gonna hang up no problem [3241.74 --> 3256.68] boop all right so this is it my friends this is your last chance for q a with the one the only [3256.68 --> 3266.30] nicky v who has some of his uh civic cake with him so this was a this was a parting gift for for [3266.30 --> 3272.08] the one and only nicky v it's his last day today it's a uh it's a cake in the shape of the of the [3272.08 --> 3278.42] civic it looks pretty good it's a very good recreation homemade yvonne homemade yeah and it's good cake too [3278.42 --> 3286.06] except one minor detail that i can't leave out yes these tires these are brown and you know that the [3286.06 --> 3291.50] rims on that thing are orange but i noticed i saw a recent picture that your civic uh rims are looking [3291.50 --> 3297.24] a little faded these days i don't think we did enough coats the rims are a little faded the you [3297.24 --> 3301.28] know want to know something funny about the civic what how long do you think it's been since we painted [3301.28 --> 3308.56] it uh it was in the spring i think no i don't know maybe a year and a half year okay so um [3308.56 --> 3317.40] we moved in here i think two years ago so it's been almost two years that's a long time that car [3317.40 --> 3325.14] has not been washed yeah inside or out oh i know inside in that time so if the paint were to be [3325.14 --> 3331.36] damaged or faded wow it makes sense then but you know what i think maybe maybe that maybe the rims [3331.36 --> 3335.70] aren't fading though maybe they're just covered in dirt but how are those windshield wipers holding up [3335.70 --> 3340.28] they are most excellent they're most excellent well there you go okay we got the questions [3340.28 --> 3345.76] rolling in who is going to prank dennis now who are you handing the mantle over to i would say [3345.76 --> 3350.08] who's got the capability i think you have the pranking capability but you don't have the time [3350.08 --> 3357.22] i think colton has the time but doesn't have the ability maybe colton maybe he's the the next prankster [3357.22 --> 3362.26] but i don't know i think there's some people who could set up a pretty good prank all right and of [3362.26 --> 3366.66] course the number one question we'll get this out of the way so people ask other questions where [3366.66 --> 3375.40] are you going i am going to the linus tech tips of biking called pinkbike.com it's like if you didn't [3375.40 --> 3379.32] know what bike like if you weren't really a mountain biker anything you probably wouldn't know about it [3379.32 --> 3384.42] but if you had stepped foot on a mountain biker if you've ever bought one or anything like that it is [3384.42 --> 3389.62] like the the hub it's like the the only source there's other websites but this is sort of the og [3389.62 --> 3396.62] gangster ass website that started in calgary and then kind of like grew as the sport became a sport [3396.62 --> 3402.10] from nothing so pretty pretty awesome so this is as much a question from me as anyone else what exactly [3402.10 --> 3408.48] will you be doing there i'll be uh making videos um i'll be running around with a guy named brett tippy [3408.48 --> 3415.38] he's like i would say the only person i know that is comparable in energy level to you i would have [3415.38 --> 3422.34] i would i would run a poll like if people who know who knew both both people i don't know who has [3422.34 --> 3427.62] more energy you or him so it would be it would be a pretty pretty good uh pretty good battle but uh i'll [3427.62 --> 3433.56] be making videos and doing some web content and stuff for them and and uh you know all things biking just [3433.56 --> 3440.00] trying to uh share my love of biking with the world you know so i'm pretty excited we've got someone [3440.00 --> 3446.38] asking will you collab will i collab there's not a lot of overlap but i don't think it's impossible [3446.38 --> 3452.48] i saw the overlap and i've seen it with my very own eyes really it's it would be a taran e-bike thing [3452.48 --> 3457.98] of course oh lordy but e-bikes are now like e-bikes have always just been like kind of a laughing joke [3457.98 --> 3461.96] of mountain biking like no who wants to ride it but they're getting lighter yeah they're getting [3461.96 --> 3467.18] lighter and they're making them more like off-road capable and now there's some e-bikes that are like [3467.18 --> 3471.96] uh somebody was explaining it like the whole stigma around them is that they're stupid they're [3471.96 --> 3476.54] unnecessary it's just the bike industry involved like innovating to make people spend more money on [3476.54 --> 3483.38] shit that they don't need sorry i said i swore on here um but the uh what am i gonna do fire you yeah [3483.38 --> 3490.70] i guess so you could today hey you could pull the luke on me today um the one time i actually fire [3490.70 --> 3496.60] someone and it actually means anything but uh they're getting better in like the regard that [3496.60 --> 3500.06] somebody was somebody explained it to me really well and they're like well you know how downhill [3500.06 --> 3505.10] racing oh i'm falling away downhill racing and stuff is always like really intense and whatever [3505.10 --> 3509.38] but now you could have it where you know you're riding downhill and that's all scary and stuff but [3509.38 --> 3514.12] then you're also like really accelerating uphill which is kind of awesome too okay so what's gonna [3514.12 --> 3520.50] happen to the nikki v character we've got people asking about i don't know do we spoil it i don't [3520.50 --> 3524.72] know i don't know what happens i actually don't know well we we do know what happens i know [3524.72 --> 3530.42] things aren't looking good for him you know he's been if he if he doesn't die from you know health [3530.42 --> 3536.76] issues from all that pain inhalation and uh you know drinking sauce and and all these sorts of [3536.76 --> 3541.38] things that are just really not you know they're gonna make you into a healthy person i think uh he's [3541.38 --> 3545.82] gonna suffer some serious health complications in the future but you know that's just for me i don't [3545.82 --> 3552.98] know he probably has another uh uh opinion on that uh let's see what else we got coming in here [3552.98 --> 3558.36] is there a youtube channel that nikki v will be on and i think they mean nick van burkle of course if [3558.36 --> 3563.36] you mean me i'm not gonna try and beat that character to death i've tried to keep it as minimal as like [3563.36 --> 3569.38] i know there's lots of it but it's something that can very easily be overdone i'll just try to do it [3569.38 --> 3574.04] once in a while i probably won't be doing that on my channel but if you want to see my my personal [3574.04 --> 3578.94] youtube channel that has always existed that you should have known about if you wanted to see it [3578.94 --> 3584.74] it's just called burkle and i post a video there like probably two times a year if that maybe once [3584.74 --> 3591.32] a year maybe i'll put some more up i don't know but like when you do videos full time for a youtube [3591.32 --> 3598.30] channel sometimes you like don't really have time or energy to work on your own channel so it kind of [3598.30 --> 3602.96] gets neglected okay i've got a tough one i'm gonna put you on the spot shulgin's potion asks [3602.96 --> 3606.44] what is your favorite memory at lmg [3606.44 --> 3614.28] hmm favorite memory probably most intense memory was that prank where you robbed the house [3614.28 --> 3621.36] and because that was like five things at once it was we had a good day like actually painting the car [3621.36 --> 3626.24] this is all in the same day we went to linus's house at like 9 a.m or something started painting [3626.24 --> 3632.14] the car then we did something else we played badminton or something we ate pizza it was like a great [3632.14 --> 3638.38] summer day we come back and then all of this crap goes down with the with the robbery and like i was [3638.38 --> 3644.50] i've never been so fooled and so pranked in my life that i like i was like i don't think someone [3644.50 --> 3649.52] stole you again no i don't think so i don't think so dennis tried to get me with that tinder prank [3649.52 --> 3655.22] and he almost did like the one where it was like somebody messaging me about like uh like hey it's [3655.22 --> 3661.92] blah blah blah from tinder and then i was like wait i have a tinder but i'm very like uninvolved and [3661.92 --> 3665.88] the actual conversation part i just literally have it it's almost like a game i don't use it [3665.88 --> 3670.58] or like i use it but i don't like follow up but then i was like what the hell and then immediately [3670.58 --> 3675.78] after i'm like closing my phone that's when dennis comes by with the camera like got you it's like [3675.78 --> 3682.00] no you didn't i knew this all along so we've got a lot of people asking about ltx and occasional guest [3682.00 --> 3686.22] spots and i'll kind of jump in this is some these are two things or at least one of them that we've [3686.22 --> 3693.38] discussed and i think it's kind of like um this is an amicable breakup but it's still a breakup so i [3693.38 --> 3699.32] don't think either side is really talking about like you know here what are all the things that [3699.32 --> 3706.16] we're gonna do together in the future the door's not being closed no and i don't think i don't think [3706.16 --> 3710.10] uh anyone's saying that they would refuse to walk through a door that was open we're just [3710.10 --> 3717.50] we're kind of going okay we're going our separate ways and everything's everything's good there's [3717.50 --> 3723.02] cake um it's been a hell of a ride yeah it's actually crazy looking back at it because now [3723.02 --> 3727.08] it seems like not a long time but then when you think of all the things that we've done in the [3727.08 --> 3731.70] meantime i've been crazy there's been like years worth of the pace that we go at here i think is [3731.70 --> 3736.50] like maybe some other places like five ten years of work that's the amount of memories are you [3736.50 --> 3740.90] expecting a slower pace because like i was you know i don't know i've done a lot of reflecting [3740.90 --> 3747.34] like i'm thinking about like germany like the mexico trip which was like hectic it felt like we were [3747.34 --> 3751.98] down there for months but like looking back at it there was actually a lot of like crazy kind of fun [3751.98 --> 3757.20] stuff and like i do think some of the stuff is the same pace like i've um i've worked with these guys [3757.20 --> 3763.24] once before in california and it was really high pace but the one funny thing was like because i'm so used [3763.24 --> 3770.00] to like a crazy crazy turnaround that we've had here for the last i don't know three years going [3770.00 --> 3774.58] to do something where it's like okay this is gonna be a stressful event you got to get like you got to [3774.58 --> 3779.28] get a like two videos done today i was like oh no problem i've been doing this every day for like the [3779.28 --> 3782.84] last three years it feels like this shouldn't this should be a breeze but i don't know everything's [3782.84 --> 3788.86] new challenge so uh i don't know pace will probably be pretty high whatever you do you set the pace [3788.86 --> 3794.72] right so maybe i'll burn myself out of that oh sorry will there be a replacement editor actually [3794.72 --> 3801.36] i mean this is something that it comes down to sort of responsible business management you know um [3801.36 --> 3807.70] nick had cut back to 60 earlier this year so we had already proactively hired an additional editor [3807.70 --> 3816.30] just in case um because i mean it's not been a secret ever that your passion is biking and snowboarding [3816.30 --> 3822.68] um like i remember someone i'm not going to name any names but someone before we hired you [3822.68 --> 3829.20] said i'm not sure how long he'll last his real passion is biking and snowboarding videos that's funny [3829.20 --> 3835.16] um i mean you you came into a group where you already knew a lot of the people and they obviously [3835.16 --> 3843.04] knew you fairly well um so i remember i remember even when the job was offered i turned it down and [3843.04 --> 3849.16] then said um i'm not gonna take this job and then you're like you know what come down and then i was [3849.16 --> 3856.12] convinced easily that's it a high five yeah never even give me a hug nope what are we supposed to hug [3856.12 --> 3860.34] on wanshow dude yeah you can hug on wanshow you can do anything you want on wanshow as long as there's [3860.34 --> 3868.84] no nipple showing yeah yeah or if we oh all right bud all right dude [3868.84 --> 3875.92] get out of here colton dude you're crossing the line people are asking what's going to happen to [3875.92 --> 3883.02] channel super fun um we don't know actually channel super fun nick or not nick has had kind of had some [3883.02 --> 3889.46] challenges over the last couple of years we don't know if it makes any sense um the entire twitch chat is [3889.46 --> 3896.18] cringing so hard colton so thank you for that that was the most awkward hug since like my weird uncle [3896.18 --> 3903.16] have you ever seen what is that you see me hug my wife i don't know i don't know and have a great [3903.16 --> 3909.28] weekend see you later colton um yeah well because it challenge super fun has changed so much because [3909.28 --> 3915.08] it was it started out as just a side thing for fun when there was downtime or like a side thing to try [3915.08 --> 3919.62] something out that didn't fit on the other channels then it kind of turned into like oh crap these [3919.62 --> 3924.38] numbers are actually getting pretty good this might be a legitimate channel and then like taking the [3924.38 --> 3929.78] different sure i don't know what these are they're good maple buffalo just a literal piece of bacon [3929.78 --> 3937.94] right on um yeah it changed so much that you know you don't want to keep beating something to death if [3937.94 --> 3942.44] it isn't like organically growing so i think just maybe a different approach or whatever like [3942.44 --> 3949.22] you've noticed that over the past little bit but there's some good golden era uh channel super [3949.22 --> 3957.66] fun episodes that i still love so much carolina reaper jerky i've eaten all of that jerky i'll tell [3957.66 --> 3962.60] you one thing it is delicious there's one of them though that like just killed the insides of me [3962.60 --> 3971.12] it's too hot like you feel it like everywhere it just destroys your your entire insides so watch out for [3971.12 --> 3979.60] that one um all right i don't seem i don't actually see much else here they want you to bring linus cat [3979.60 --> 3988.44] tips back yeah i yeah i don't see how often do you sprinkle water on that growing flower growing oh i i [3988.44 --> 3993.66] don't remember the last time i uploaded something there to be honest it's just like it's so it comes [3993.66 --> 4000.02] down to when you're busy making videos for like a real channel because the idea behind linus cat [4000.02 --> 4003.58] tips was it would just be me like tooling around at home like playing with my cats or whatever and [4003.58 --> 4009.86] like the last thing i want to do when i have a minute to like sit down and like cuddle with my cat [4009.86 --> 4014.06] is like get a camera like i don't even want to look at a camera well that's been the same thing with [4014.06 --> 4019.42] like my my channel i like i've always just put random whatever project i had been working on that i [4019.42 --> 4024.62] needed to put somewhere on that youtube channel of mine but yeah like when you're if your week [4024.62 --> 4030.62] consists of like shooting and editing when you get off work and you're like oh okay i need to go do [4030.62 --> 4035.02] something outside or something like anything not related to what i've just been sitting and doing [4035.02 --> 4040.82] for the last you know eight nine whatever hours yeah it's kind of hard to like make a video at that [4040.82 --> 4045.60] point but sometimes you can we got people asking if you're going to make a goodbye video if you're going [4045.60 --> 4051.38] to do final touch-ups on the uh the lamborghini and to that i will say we have something special [4051.38 --> 4058.52] in mind as a final as a final video so stay tuned this won't be the last time you see him but this [4058.52 --> 4064.20] is the last time you'll physically be in the building this last time i'll be live that's right i'm live [4064.20 --> 4072.84] are you going to become a daily vlogger i i so hope that nobody thinks that that's what that to me like [4072.84 --> 4078.98] i'm like i hope nobody thinks i'm gonna like go and try and be all right now my main focus is my [4078.98 --> 4086.02] youtube channel where i'm gonna daily vlog my like no that's such a sad like spin-off thing i see so [4086.02 --> 4091.68] many people do that like i don't know i i can't i don't know anyone's name in particular but it's like [4091.68 --> 4098.58] and then they make the first video is like why i left buzzfeed or whatever and it's like that video [4098.58 --> 4102.72] will probably do well because people will be like oh why did this dude leave whatever and then they watch it [4102.72 --> 4108.64] and then it's like then you can't follow that up with like oh this is what i ate this morning and [4108.64 --> 4114.96] nick van neistat yeah oh just no that's never been my style come on you guys why i left buzzfeed [4114.96 --> 4120.34] slash source bed are we gonna see that video why i left linus tech tips yeah all caps and then the [4120.34 --> 4127.88] thumbnail is gonna be like me like this like uh no that's no come on who wants to watch that [4127.88 --> 4132.58] people want a spoof of that yeah you know what so that's not a terrible idea somebody else can make [4132.58 --> 4139.96] that video i know all right so it's after six and uh the last thing i can do for people who are [4139.96 --> 4146.50] officially not on the clock anymore is keep them here after work hours so the last thing i have for you [4146.50 --> 4151.84] is a final parting gift a card well you might not want to read it now it is actually a reference letter [4151.84 --> 4157.08] oh wow you already have a job wow thank you very much but i figure you might not last long at it [4157.08 --> 4162.88] well thank you i very much appreciate that so i proactively wrote that up for you thank you very [4162.88 --> 4167.40] much i think it calls for an on-camera hug linus all right get in all right [4167.40 --> 4178.34] it all right and that's getting awkward i wanted to keep it for just too long it's been a hell of a [4178.34 --> 4184.26] three years i appreciate that all right thanks guys for tuning in thanks to you for being here and [4184.26 --> 4190.10] uh we will see you guys again next week same bat time same bat channel thank y'all [4190.10 --> 4192.04] wow