EA's Lootbox Gambling in Battlefront 2 - WAN Show November 17, 2017_transcript.txt

[0.00 --> 3.82]  We're already live. It's already done. Thank you, Colton. I appreciate the help.
[4.26 --> 7.60]  It was great. It was great. We have awesome news this week.
[7.70 --> 10.42]  I'm sure you guys know of at least some of it.
[10.54 --> 13.48]  There's been the crazy Battlefield controversy going on.
[13.90 --> 15.10]  Why do I keep us on a big Battlefield?
[15.40 --> 21.46]  The crazy Battlefront controversy going on with the most downvoted comment of all time on Reddit and all this other stuff.
[21.92 --> 24.12]  We're, of course, going to talk about that.
[24.12 --> 33.76]  But there's also some other crazy things, too, like the Firefox hardware survey has some interesting nuggets of information for us that we're going to analyze later on.
[34.12 --> 37.38]  And Face ID hacked in the first week.
[37.58 --> 37.90]  Bam!
[38.06 --> 38.68]  Suck it, Apple.
[38.96 --> 42.38]  Oh, this is not good for anybody, except for the people who did it.
[42.82 --> 43.54]  I guess, yeah.
[43.72 --> 53.58]  And if you were watching last night, Tesla unveiled, finally, their semi-truck and, a surprise, the second iteration of their Roadster, which was their original vehicle.
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[82.98 --> 85.30]  A one in three chance Zotag Z-Box system.
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[93.86 --> 94.10]  Bam.
[94.26 --> 94.82]  We're back.
[95.34 --> 97.28]  And just right into it with the Battlefront news, I think.
[98.00 --> 98.56]  Let's do it.
[99.04 --> 100.84]  Actually, I'm going to cut in slightly before this.
[100.92 --> 101.82]  Shameless self-promotion.
[102.06 --> 103.52]  Big charity stream happening tomorrow.
[103.66 --> 105.40]  24 hours on my Twitch channel.
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[108.04 --> 109.66]  Going at least 24 hours.
[109.72 --> 111.44]  I think it's supposed to be like 27 hours.
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[119.40 --> 119.82]  Okay, bye.
[119.92 --> 120.24]  Anyways.
[120.36 --> 120.72]  Next topic.
[120.72 --> 122.24]  Beware or be mean.
[122.72 --> 125.16]  Or just enjoy your day in some other way.
[126.22 --> 126.66]  Battlefront.
[127.12 --> 128.14]  Crazy stuff happening.
[128.40 --> 129.40]  There was a post on Reddit.
[129.46 --> 130.50]  We're going to show it here right now.
[131.48 --> 136.06]  The Reddit post was talking about how it takes 40 hours to unlock a hero.
[136.64 --> 138.14]  They talk about a bunch of different stuff.
[138.22 --> 139.68]  The post has been updated a few times.
[139.78 --> 143.32]  Actually been very well taken care of by the hotter potato.
[143.86 --> 145.36]  This has been nuts.
[145.36 --> 149.48]  If you've been on the internet this week, almost at all, even if you're not that into gaming,
[149.48 --> 151.22]  you have probably heard about this.
[151.34 --> 156.76]  There's huge controversies where countries like Belgium are considering classifying different
[156.76 --> 161.38]  games as gambling, online gambling, because of how loot boxes are being handled, because
[161.38 --> 168.02]  this post has gotten so big that it has gotten two people that manage laws in countries, which
[168.02 --> 168.70]  is pretty crazy.
[168.92 --> 171.26]  Congressmen are being contacted about this.
[171.38 --> 176.34]  It's blown up to a ludicrous degree, which is good or bad, depending on your stance.
[176.44 --> 177.40]  Probably bad.
[178.34 --> 179.08]  Let's start at the beginning.
[179.48 --> 179.88]  Yeah.
[180.08 --> 181.80]  So the beginning is this post.
[182.02 --> 187.32]  And then what really blew it up is the developer responding, which usually makes things better.
[187.42 --> 188.66]  It super did not.
[188.80 --> 192.98]  I'm sure a lot of this is same old, same old from what you guys have heard.
[193.26 --> 195.86]  So before we get into their response, why don't we outline what happened at the beginning
[195.86 --> 196.04]  with?
[196.12 --> 200.62]  It was basically everyone getting super, super duper mad because the new Star Wars Battlefront
[200.62 --> 204.78]  2 game from EA, which is a flagship title that costs 80 bucks.
[204.94 --> 205.24]  Yes.
[205.24 --> 211.48]  also has heavily these pay-to-win game mechanics.
[211.48 --> 216.38]  So how that kind of works, and I played in the beta and I started to feel it as well, is
[216.38 --> 218.10]  a lot of games have loot boxes.
[218.36 --> 221.80]  You've got Overwatch, where you get a bunch of different skins or portraits or whatever.
[222.28 --> 226.16]  Shadow of War had some issues here as well, where it could really help you with your gameplay,
[226.16 --> 229.50]  but I beat on the hardest difficulty without using any of them.
[229.66 --> 230.38]  That's not a brag.
[230.46 --> 231.48]  A lot of people did this.
[231.82 --> 233.50]  It's not that difficult of a game.
[234.32 --> 235.86]  And it's not that big of a deal.
[236.42 --> 238.04]  This is where it became a big problem.
[238.20 --> 243.70]  This is a multiplayer game, and they directly give you extremely powerful advantages against
[243.70 --> 244.24]  your enemy.
[244.48 --> 246.66]  Not just aesthetic skins and stuff like that, like Overwatch.
[246.78 --> 247.06]  No.
[247.28 --> 247.50]  Yeah.
[247.68 --> 249.58]  Like, directly power.
[249.74 --> 250.38]  You are better.
[250.50 --> 251.46]  You do more damage.
[251.78 --> 252.82]  You regen more health.
[252.92 --> 253.74]  You have more health.
[253.84 --> 255.24]  You lock onto targets faster.
[255.24 --> 258.88]  You don't get locked onto as fast, these types of things.
[258.98 --> 262.44]  But surely you can achieve those things from just playing the game and not spending money.
[262.70 --> 266.06]  Yes, but it takes a ludicrous amount of time.
[266.12 --> 266.82]  How much time?
[266.94 --> 271.46]  I don't know the exact hours, but I think someone calculated it as, like, over six months.
[271.50 --> 273.38]  It's 40 hours to unlock a hero.
[273.72 --> 275.18]  But there's other stuff as well.
[275.18 --> 278.28]  Like, the hero, that's definitely part of it.
[278.38 --> 281.92]  And you can't get Vader without playing the game for 40 hours, which is ridiculous,
[282.04 --> 284.24]  because most people aren't going to play the game for 40 hours.
[284.26 --> 284.70]  Like a single player.
[284.70 --> 286.08]  Or, like, just the game.
[286.20 --> 286.94]  The game.
[287.76 --> 292.16]  How it's balanced is not based on skill, which is another thing that's pissing people off.
[292.42 --> 300.08]  If you do really, really well in a round, and you kill a ton of people, you're not going to get that many more credits than someone who just played for the same amount of time that you did.
[300.14 --> 300.44]  Okay.
[300.72 --> 302.92]  Which is bugging a lot of people, which makes sense.
[302.94 --> 304.52]  Sounds like good money-making business practice.
[304.52 --> 308.92]  Yeah, because you have to pour a huge amount of time in, like 40 hours, to unlock something like a hero.
[309.08 --> 311.62]  The part that bugs me even more than the hero part.
[311.72 --> 316.00]  The hero part is just, it hits that 40-hour number, so it's easily digestible.
[316.22 --> 316.58]  Yeah, okay.
[316.58 --> 317.08]  Okay.
[317.08 --> 317.96]  The cards.
[318.16 --> 321.28]  You get these different cards that you put on your character that give you different bonuses.
[321.54 --> 321.80]  Okay.
[321.92 --> 324.12]  Say you're playing the spaceship combat mode.
[324.84 --> 325.60]  I'm in a bomber.
[326.00 --> 326.78]  You're in a TIE fighter.
[326.78 --> 328.96]  I've spent a whole bunch of money on the game.
[329.10 --> 331.24]  Just money man, tossing it all over the place.
[331.52 --> 336.18]  I have something that makes it so that I lock onto targets 200% faster.
[336.32 --> 336.94]  Holy cow.
[337.04 --> 340.58]  Also, my bombs do increase damage, and I move faster.
[340.86 --> 342.12]  You don't have any cards.
[342.46 --> 343.40]  You just started the game.
[343.46 --> 344.18]  You just launched up.
[344.42 --> 345.78]  You were just fighting another bomber.
[346.32 --> 346.98]  You're in a fighter.
[347.14 --> 348.66]  You're able to get away from him and get out.
[348.74 --> 349.36]  You're like, sick.
[349.42 --> 350.42]  Okay, I got this new move.
[350.42 --> 354.06]  I spin and list slightly to the left, and everything works out great.
[354.20 --> 355.58]  You try to do the same thing against me.
[355.58 --> 357.30]  I lock onto you 200% faster.
[357.48 --> 358.34]  You can't get out of the way.
[358.40 --> 358.72]  Conked.
[358.76 --> 359.06]  You're dead.
[359.30 --> 359.74]  Yeah, okay.
[359.84 --> 363.78]  That directly, strongly affected gameplay based on card advantages.
[364.34 --> 367.20]  Now, to get to the top, there's different tiers of these cards as well.
[367.50 --> 370.38]  To get to the top tier of cards, you kind of have to craft your way up.
[371.14 --> 373.72]  The easiest way to get crafting materials is loot boxes.
[374.48 --> 377.42]  The easiest way to craft your tier up to the top card is loot boxes.
[377.82 --> 384.02]  People who spend money will be directly better at online competitive modes because of this.
[384.02 --> 385.72]  And it's lots of money.
[385.86 --> 389.64]  If I remember correctly, if you want to unlock everything, like top tier of every card in
[389.64 --> 392.34]  all the heroes, it's like $2,100 or something.
[392.60 --> 393.68]  I'm saying that off the top of my head.
[393.72 --> 394.44]  I don't remember exactly where it is.
[394.44 --> 397.40]  But is that even a realistic thing that anyone would want to do?
[398.08 --> 399.08]  Or realistically do?
[399.10 --> 399.28]  That's the thing.
[399.54 --> 399.90]  Yes.
[400.26 --> 400.58]  Oh.
[400.96 --> 402.04]  It absolutely is.
[402.08 --> 405.46]  If you look into the game industry right now, especially the mobile side, which are
[405.46 --> 409.04]  the guys that have been doing more of this kind of like loot box, pay-to-win mechanics,
[409.04 --> 412.98]  it hasn't been in a lot of full price games because that's ridiculous.
[413.98 --> 415.14]  That's the whole controversy.
[415.30 --> 417.96]  Do you think people would be as mad if this game was free to play?
[418.40 --> 418.60]  No.
[418.74 --> 419.20]  Or pay-to-win?
[419.30 --> 420.20]  I don't think they'd be nearly as mad.
[420.20 --> 421.22]  Because you already paid $80.
[421.78 --> 422.02]  Yeah.
[422.60 --> 427.26]  So what they're targeting is what's called in the gaming industry whales.
[427.84 --> 428.12]  Right.
[428.62 --> 429.82]  Small amounts of people.
[430.14 --> 430.94]  I've heard people.
[431.24 --> 433.32]  I know PewDiePie in his videos said 10%.
[433.32 --> 435.04]  I doubt it's anywhere near that high.
[435.04 --> 439.46]  I'm going to go with 1% or lower of players will spend a ludicrous amount of money.
[439.64 --> 444.14]  These are the guys that will play a mobile game and just be like, I'm going to spend
[444.14 --> 447.94]  thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars just to wreck all of you.
[448.24 --> 448.76]  Literally thousands.
[448.90 --> 452.60]  I spoke to, when I was traveling, I met some people from Silicon Valley who worked in the
[452.60 --> 456.34]  industry and they said they had a very small percentage of users who had spent over $100,000
[456.34 --> 457.90]  just on that mobile app.
[458.26 --> 458.44]  Yeah.
[458.54 --> 458.90]  Insane.
[459.34 --> 460.08]  Absolutely nuts.
[460.08 --> 467.80]  And there are definitely lots of people that will spend that $2,100 to, on day one, have
[467.80 --> 469.30]  a huge advantage on everyone else.
[469.60 --> 470.74]  Why would you want that?
[470.98 --> 472.10]  You might as well put in cheats.
[472.30 --> 473.80]  Is it really that fun to have God mode?
[474.42 --> 477.28]  It's not quite God mode, but it is a noticeable advantage.
[477.42 --> 481.94]  And the biggest issue for me is it creates a concept in the game where when someone kills
[481.94 --> 487.54]  you, you can legitimately say that it was because of something that wasn't skill.
[487.54 --> 490.74]  Yeah, you can lose and be like, overpowered, that's Imba.
[491.64 --> 496.18]  He just spent more money on the game, that's why he won, and you might not be wrong, which
[496.18 --> 497.16]  is ridiculous.
[497.34 --> 498.82]  Why would you want to make a game like that?
[499.06 --> 502.30]  In lots of games where you're like, oh, that gun's just overpowered, the response from
[502.30 --> 504.48]  pretty much everyone else is going to be like, okay, then use it.
[504.88 --> 507.60]  Or like, find a way to counter it, get good, something like that.
[507.80 --> 510.68]  In this game, you could be like, he just spent more money, what can I do?
[511.24 --> 512.60]  And that's a legitimate stance.
[512.60 --> 513.56]  And that is ridiculous.
[513.70 --> 514.98]  That shouldn't be able to be a legitimate stance.
[514.98 --> 517.42]  But it has been made so by the developers.
[517.80 --> 522.60]  And it's ridiculous because of one of the statements that they said in this official
[522.60 --> 527.26]  post, which I'm going to jump back to here, which drives me absolutely insane.
[527.34 --> 528.86]  It drove the entire internet insane.
[528.96 --> 529.94]  And I'm sure you've all heard this.
[530.22 --> 531.44]  But where is it?
[531.54 --> 532.16]  Da, da, da, da, da.
[532.78 --> 533.70]  And you really mean that?
[533.72 --> 535.06]  This is like a record-breaking post.
[535.06 --> 535.42]  Oh, yeah.
[535.44 --> 536.68]  Record-breaking downvote.
[536.72 --> 539.50]  It says right now negative 20.9 thousand.
[539.72 --> 541.42]  But it's way more than that.
[541.48 --> 542.18]  I don't know what happened.
[542.18 --> 544.92]  It must have been on a slope or autocorrected curve, whatever.
[545.72 --> 548.48]  But I saw it personally at over 600,000.
[548.68 --> 550.84]  And I'm sure it was higher than that at some point in time.
[551.00 --> 552.02]  But yeah.
[552.82 --> 553.64]  Let's see here.
[554.00 --> 557.98]  We'll continuously adjust our progression mechanics to give players a sense of accomplishment
[557.98 --> 561.20]  as they explore all of Battlefront 2.
[561.20 --> 566.28]  That has driven everyone nuts because the sense of accomplishment isn't skill.
[567.40 --> 569.62]  It's not doing better at the game gives you more credits.
[569.76 --> 572.34]  It's spending more time on the game gives you more credits.
[572.78 --> 577.62]  And you can just skip all of that and have a sense of freaking accomplishment by paying
[577.62 --> 582.00]  a whole bunch of money into the game and instantaneously being better than everyone.
[582.38 --> 587.68]  Removing other people's sense of accomplishment by squishing on them with your cash because you
[587.68 --> 590.20]  bought better freaking cards or heroes or whatever.
[590.20 --> 594.28]  The question I have is when you come into this as a noob who hasn't spent anything yet
[594.28 --> 599.08]  and you get absolutely demolished by someone who has, are you just going to put the game
[599.08 --> 600.06]  down and not play it anymore?
[600.20 --> 601.82]  Or are you going to be motivated to spend?
[602.08 --> 603.54]  They're obviously banking on the latter.
[603.78 --> 606.30]  But what do you think is actually going to happen for people?
[606.44 --> 607.84]  I think it's going to be a little bit of both.
[608.08 --> 609.12]  If you have...
[609.12 --> 612.52]  This is the frustrating situation you have right here.
[612.60 --> 615.20]  If you have a group of friends...
[616.14 --> 618.62]  Some people are saying, yeah, I think it was a slightly different quote.
[618.62 --> 621.96]  I don't know if it was from a different post or this one has been edited or what, but I
[621.96 --> 623.06]  think it was slightly different.
[623.36 --> 627.46]  Anyways, if you have a group of friends that all play games together.
[627.58 --> 630.44]  You guys have been playing games together since high school or something.
[631.12 --> 634.38]  And two out of six of the friends start playing Battlefront.
[635.16 --> 635.52]  All right.
[635.92 --> 638.78]  You normally play a game all together, but these guys want to play Battlefront.
[638.86 --> 639.54]  They just bought it.
[639.88 --> 643.18]  Then maybe one or two more guys buy Battlefront because they were playing.
[643.44 --> 646.28]  The last two guys are going to cave because four to six have it anyways.
[646.28 --> 650.28]  Guys, it's very easy if a couple people in a group start playing a game that everyone
[650.28 --> 652.58]  will eventually play because everyone just wants to play together and it's something
[652.58 --> 653.10]  new and shiny.
[653.38 --> 653.98]  That's great.
[654.22 --> 655.28]  Now you're all playing together.
[655.68 --> 659.98]  But Jim and Larry don't have as much time.
[660.64 --> 661.76]  They spend more time at work.
[661.88 --> 662.58]  They're great gamers.
[662.82 --> 663.78]  They're great in your crew.
[663.92 --> 666.08]  You love having them there, but they don't have as much time.
[666.20 --> 669.36]  So to make up for the time, they're going to spend money on the game.
[669.36 --> 673.94]  Even though they're great gamers, they're top in score charts and everything, they could
[673.94 --> 677.38]  normally make up the time by getting more credits and just doing better in the game.
[677.52 --> 681.90]  In something like Counter-Strike, it doesn't matter at all because they don't care if they
[681.90 --> 682.92]  don't have the fancy skins.
[683.14 --> 684.42]  They still get the same freaking gun.
[684.84 --> 686.56]  So when they're like Overwatch, it doesn't matter.
[686.74 --> 688.00]  They don't care if they don't look as cool.
[688.50 --> 689.38]  They have the same heroes.
[690.16 --> 690.86]  Everything's fine.
[691.68 --> 693.24]  Or even in Destiny, they just scale it.
[693.64 --> 694.46]  They just scale it.
[694.46 --> 699.08]  And in Destiny, there's loot boxes, sort of bright engrams, but they just give you aesthetic
[699.08 --> 700.36]  items and it doesn't really matter.
[700.70 --> 706.56]  These are games where you can catch up through skill or catch up because there's nothing to
[706.56 --> 707.14]  catch up on.
[707.62 --> 710.32]  Instead of, oh, I'm going to catch up by spending money.
[710.42 --> 712.28]  That is my mechanic to catch up to wrestling.
[712.28 --> 714.02]  I didn't realize there was this time issue.
[714.12 --> 715.80]  It's almost completely separate from the money issue.
[716.44 --> 719.70]  It's, yeah, well, that's the big problem is...
[719.70 --> 720.62]  They kind of work together.
[720.62 --> 723.42]  The money issue almost alleviates the time issue.
[724.46 --> 726.20]  But that's...
[726.20 --> 726.82]  Some sicko.
[727.04 --> 728.10]  That's the mechanic, though.
[728.20 --> 728.90]  Yeah, yeah.
[729.02 --> 731.10]  So the problem I have is because...
[731.10 --> 732.82]  Let's take a look at my brother.
[732.90 --> 738.30]  My brother works a lot and has crazy work hours because he drives truck for movie production
[738.30 --> 738.76]  companies.
[739.16 --> 741.10]  So they work to crazy hours of the night.
[741.10 --> 742.88]  They work crazy long hours in general.
[743.02 --> 746.76]  And you usually get on for a specific show and they want to film that entire show.
[746.96 --> 749.66]  So for the duration of that show, you're working nutso amount of hours.
[749.66 --> 755.54]  If he wants to play a game like this, it's very likely that it would make logical sense.
[756.02 --> 757.04]  I'm not saying he's going to.
[757.12 --> 758.06]  I'm not saying he's not going to.
[758.14 --> 762.84]  But it would make logical sense for him to buy some boxes so he can catch up to the rest
[762.84 --> 765.76]  of us that would be able to play more if we were playing this game.
[766.54 --> 768.16]  That makes sense for him.
[768.40 --> 771.74]  The problem is that the game is based around that.
[771.88 --> 772.02]  Yeah.
[772.02 --> 774.86]  And it is trying to push people to do that.
[774.96 --> 779.66]  If gaming companies start making money, they'll try to find ways that make more money.
[780.00 --> 780.14]  Yeah.
[780.22 --> 782.56]  The time and money thing are mutually reinforcing.
[782.74 --> 782.92]  Yeah.
[783.26 --> 783.44]  Yeah.
[783.54 --> 784.66]  The thing about...
[784.66 --> 789.80]  Back to the question of if you are more likely to just stop playing versus more likely to
[789.80 --> 792.62]  spend money in order to not get squashed.
[793.30 --> 796.42]  You already have this sunk cost of 80 bucks.
[796.52 --> 797.38]  That's a big issue too.
[797.82 --> 798.26]  And like...
[798.26 --> 799.42]  If it was free, you could walk away.
[799.56 --> 799.82]  Yeah.
[799.82 --> 802.24]  Oh, if I just spend 10 more bucks, I'll have more fun.
[802.48 --> 804.82]  But then it's gambling, which is another huge issue.
[805.12 --> 809.28]  So you spend 10 more bucks and maybe you want to play the heavy class in the ground war
[809.28 --> 811.00]  game instead of the space game or whatever.
[811.12 --> 811.54]  You want to play...
[811.54 --> 812.84]  Let's just go with the heavy class.
[813.18 --> 815.48]  And you don't get any of the cards that you want for the heavy class.
[815.88 --> 816.92]  You already spent your 10 bucks.
[816.98 --> 817.34]  It's gone.
[817.44 --> 818.12]  You didn't get any of the things that you wanted.
[818.12 --> 820.44]  Because the cards come out of loot boxes and the loot boxes are random.
[820.46 --> 820.78]  Are random.
[821.56 --> 824.18]  So it's gambling because maybe now you have to spend more.
[824.32 --> 824.94]  You don't know.
[825.12 --> 827.96]  I like playing the bomber in the star fighting game thing.
[827.96 --> 828.68]  I played in the beta.
[828.68 --> 831.28]  I only want cards for the bomber.
[831.40 --> 832.66]  I play the bomber on both sides.
[832.78 --> 834.56]  I play the tie bomber and I play the A-wing.
[834.76 --> 835.24]  I...
[835.24 --> 838.12]  If I don't get cards for the bomber, I'm just going to want more loot boxes.
[839.42 --> 840.10]  It's gambling.
[841.14 --> 842.24]  You can craft cards too.
[842.38 --> 842.54]  Yeah.
[842.60 --> 843.22]  And you can craft...
[843.22 --> 845.56]  Someone just in the chat just said you can craft cards too.
[846.46 --> 846.82]  Great.
[846.82 --> 852.52]  People who spend money in the game will be able to craft more cards because they'll have more materials from the other cards.
[852.74 --> 854.06]  And the more you play the game...
[854.06 --> 861.30]  If I played that spaceship combat game for enough time, I would eventually want to branch out of just fighting with the bomber ship.
[861.36 --> 862.62]  It's not necessarily true for everyone.
[862.74 --> 863.24]  Or Y-Wing.
[863.34 --> 863.52]  Sorry.
[863.92 --> 865.04]  It's not necessarily true for...
[865.04 --> 866.26]  A-Wing is a little fast one.
[866.34 --> 866.52]  Sorry.
[867.48 --> 869.10]  It's not necessarily true for everybody.
[869.64 --> 871.96]  But a lot of people, including myself, are going to want to branch out.
[872.06 --> 873.48]  Then they'll want cards for other things.
[873.60 --> 875.10]  Then you're running out of crafting materials.
[875.22 --> 878.10]  Then it costs $2,100 to get all of the cards in the game.
[878.24 --> 881.86]  Because now you actually enjoy the game because you spent $80 and it's the only game you bought this season.
[882.00 --> 882.22]  Maybe.
[883.26 --> 884.14]  It's just frustrating.
[884.26 --> 887.84]  Because now that it's here, they're building the game around it.
[887.84 --> 890.28]  That's one thing that I actually defended Shadow of War with.
[891.10 --> 896.80]  Is when playing Shadow of War, it didn't feel like they had built the game around the idea of the loot boxes.
[897.20 --> 899.28]  The loot boxes gave you money.
[899.62 --> 900.86]  They gave you some followers.
[901.20 --> 905.94]  But the entire game, it's like smashed in your face that there's these...
[905.94 --> 906.84]  No, not Shadow of War.
[906.98 --> 910.46]  It's smashed in your face that there are these orcs all over the place.
[910.60 --> 912.08]  And you just need to press the one button.
[912.34 --> 915.56]  And it actually ends the combat faster if you want to recruit them.
[915.56 --> 918.70]  So the game gives you these orcs all the time.
[918.76 --> 920.16]  So it's not that big of a deal.
[920.26 --> 921.06]  I didn't mind it that much.
[921.12 --> 923.08]  It didn't feel like the game was designed around it.
[923.50 --> 926.24]  Battlefront absolutely, absolutely.
[926.38 --> 931.52]  Battlefront 2 feels like it was designed around the idea of the loot boxes instead of the other way around.
[932.28 --> 933.12]  Which is bad.
[933.28 --> 934.26]  This is very bad.
[934.40 --> 935.68]  So we haven't even got to the news portion.
[935.88 --> 944.22]  Which is the fact that after a brutal AMA where they just made everyone even more mad with their question dodging and brutal unsatisfactory answers.
[944.22 --> 950.20]  They made another determination which was for now they're just going to turn off all of it.
[950.58 --> 955.30]  The ability to purchase crystals in-game will now be completely offline.
[956.30 --> 960.90]  And John told me that actually if you go to the interface where you go to buy these crystals,
[960.90 --> 965.58]  instead of just removing the button and not letting you go into that area,
[965.76 --> 969.74]  you can click the button and it brings you just like a random janky blank page.
[971.54 --> 974.06]  Maybe people on the chat can confirm or deny this.
[974.30 --> 975.46]  I haven't seen that.
[975.56 --> 976.50]  I don't have it.
[977.06 --> 979.60]  Someone in the chat said Luke won't be streaming Battlefront 2.
[979.98 --> 982.42]  Technically, I will be streaming Battlefront 2.
[982.50 --> 984.08]  I'll be streaming Battlefront 2 tomorrow.
[984.08 --> 988.40]  It'll just be the original one because I'm playing games throughout the years.
[988.56 --> 991.88]  So I don't remember what year the original Battlefront 2 came out in,
[992.12 --> 993.62]  but I'm playing it for that year.
[993.68 --> 997.00]  So it's going to be all pixelated and wonky and fun.
[997.40 --> 998.04]  And fun.
[998.30 --> 999.46]  Most of all, fun.
[999.60 --> 1000.74]  There's no loot boxes.
[1001.54 --> 1002.46]  It's great.
[1003.06 --> 1004.24]  2007 apparently.
[1004.42 --> 1004.64]  What?
[1004.80 --> 1005.08]  No.
[1006.06 --> 1006.38]  Maybe.
[1007.46 --> 1008.78]  It's not 2007.
[1008.78 --> 1016.56]  So the thing to note about them turning off this game mechanic for the buying
[1016.56 --> 1017.76]  is that they didn't remove it.
[1018.00 --> 1019.04]  They've just turned it off.
[1019.54 --> 1023.14]  And they say the ability to purchase crystals in-game will become available at a later date
[1023.14 --> 1025.76]  once EA has made changes to the game.
[1025.92 --> 1029.78]  So it's funny because the internet seemed to lag here a little bit.
[1030.30 --> 1034.26]  It felt like if you pile everyone, which isn't fair.
[1034.44 --> 1034.98]  It's not fair.
[1035.04 --> 1035.36]  I understand.
[1035.46 --> 1038.50]  If you pile everyone on the internet into one little hive mind bubble,
[1038.78 --> 1040.52]  they read the first part.
[1041.00 --> 1044.00]  And then about an hour or two later, read the second part.
[1044.16 --> 1045.50]  Because the whole internet rejoiced.
[1045.68 --> 1046.94]  Like, we did it, read it.
[1046.94 --> 1048.00]  We won.
[1048.00 --> 1048.18]  We won.
[1048.28 --> 1049.70]  They took microtransactions out.
[1050.40 --> 1050.92]  Accomplished.
[1051.32 --> 1054.70]  And then, like, starting about half an hour to an hour later,
[1054.78 --> 1056.18]  it started kind of bubbling up.
[1056.30 --> 1061.20]  And then by two hours later, it had passed posts about the original happiness.
[1061.40 --> 1065.44]  That, oh my goodness, they're just putting the microtransactions back in the game.
[1065.52 --> 1067.74]  And they called it the wait-what-ening.
[1067.74 --> 1069.68]  Yeah, exactly.
[1070.26 --> 1070.48]  Yeah.
[1070.84 --> 1074.76]  So, like, it's frustrating because this is so transparent.
[1075.60 --> 1080.22]  They're trying to get this huge wave of people that are refunding the game, like me,
[1080.64 --> 1087.62]  to rebuy it, play it long enough that now they're invested.
[1087.80 --> 1089.36]  Maybe they have a group of friends that play.
[1089.36 --> 1093.22]  Or I don't know how the great game guarantee works on Origin.
[1093.44 --> 1095.32]  I know that I played for zero hours.
[1095.62 --> 1098.30]  So I was, or zero minutes, zero seconds, whatever.
[1098.74 --> 1099.30]  So I was able to refund mine.
[1099.30 --> 1100.30]  So they're going to wait until that expires.
[1100.66 --> 1101.42]  I think so.
[1101.48 --> 1103.04]  But I don't know if that matters.
[1103.16 --> 1104.74]  I don't know how the great game guarantee works.
[1104.88 --> 1108.74]  But they're trying to, they're going to wait until people are kind of stuck in it.
[1108.98 --> 1109.94]  Or can't refund it.
[1110.00 --> 1110.42]  Or whatever.
[1110.42 --> 1112.42]  And then they'll put microtransactions back in.
[1112.68 --> 1113.96]  They'll make their money off their whales.
[1114.20 --> 1114.84]  And they'll move on.
[1114.98 --> 1118.62]  I'm sure that the microtransactions, I'm sure it's going to be, they're going to adjust
[1118.62 --> 1120.46]  it so you don't have to do so much work.
[1121.56 --> 1123.26]  The disparity won't be so huge.
[1123.46 --> 1125.16]  Okay, there was a huge issue there as well.
[1125.54 --> 1126.32]  Did you hear about this?
[1126.46 --> 1128.62]  So they reduced the cost of heroes.
[1129.44 --> 1131.62]  But then they reduced the amount of credits that you get.
[1131.70 --> 1132.12]  That's right.
[1132.98 --> 1134.94]  So they basically just, it was the same.
[1135.62 --> 1139.78]  Basically, they did two different moves that were both two-faced.
[1140.10 --> 1140.64]  Non-moves.
[1140.90 --> 1141.12]  Yeah.
[1141.90 --> 1145.14]  They were like, hey, we reduced the cost of heroes.
[1145.24 --> 1146.90]  By the way, we also reduced the amount of credits you get.
[1146.94 --> 1147.50]  Don't worry about it.
[1147.76 --> 1147.96]  Right.
[1148.08 --> 1150.64]  And then they're like, hey, we removed microtransactions of the game.
[1150.82 --> 1152.22]  By the way, they're also coming back.
[1152.28 --> 1152.82]  Don't worry about it.
[1153.26 --> 1156.02]  So it was like, a hero used to be a grand, but you start with a hundred bucks.
[1156.62 --> 1158.48]  Now, a hero is only a hundred bucks.
[1158.62 --> 1159.72]  But you start with ten bucks.
[1159.98 --> 1160.30]  Yeah.
[1160.30 --> 1162.64]  That's what you're saying?
[1162.96 --> 1163.44]  It's ridiculous.
[1163.54 --> 1164.10]  Yeah, essentially.
[1164.32 --> 1169.94]  So I guess this controversy just got so bad that they were actually afraid of losing their launch day sales.
[1169.98 --> 1170.98]  Like that upfront $80.
[1171.72 --> 1172.08]  Yes.
[1172.08 --> 1176.50]  That was going to get so heavily eroded that they're like, okay, we can't sacrifice that.
[1177.10 --> 1183.02]  And I wonder at some point, because a lot of these moves are so dense.
[1183.02 --> 1192.48]  Like a sense of accomplishment when you're answering a post, which its title is, it takes 40 hours to unlock a hero.
[1193.92 --> 1195.44]  And you can just buy it.
[1195.86 --> 1199.96]  Like that's so obviously not the right way to respond to that.
[1199.96 --> 1205.82]  I seriously wonder at some degree if this isn't just any press is good press.
[1206.50 --> 1210.84]  Because now every single gamer definitely knows about Battlefront.
[1211.36 --> 1214.24]  Every single mom and dad knows Battlefront is around.
[1214.52 --> 1216.04]  Nah, this is too bad.
[1216.18 --> 1216.64]  Too bad?
[1216.74 --> 1217.08]  It's too bad.
[1217.08 --> 1223.64]  Usually when companies take that strategy on, they only alienate people who weren't going to get their product anyway.
[1225.24 --> 1225.74]  You know what I mean?
[1226.06 --> 1226.24]  Yeah.
[1227.34 --> 1231.54]  Someone in the chat, Oni Hikage, I think.
[1231.88 --> 1233.04]  I probably butchered that name.
[1233.10 --> 1233.44]  I'm sorry.
[1233.92 --> 1239.44]  Said Disney CEO literally called up the EA CEO and told them to remove the option to pay for loot boxes
[1239.44 --> 1242.46]  because Disney started getting crap for purchasing mechanics towards children.
[1242.92 --> 1245.00]  I haven't seen anything about that at all.
[1245.00 --> 1246.40]  If Iger did that, it would be pretty badass.
[1247.20 --> 1248.90]  Or he's just like looking out for a bro.
[1249.36 --> 1251.28]  He's like, yo, this is not going well for us.
[1251.84 --> 1252.62]  Don't do it.
[1253.36 --> 1254.72]  Yeah, I don't know.
[1254.86 --> 1256.56]  I haven't heard anything about that.
[1257.92 --> 1260.32]  But it is pretty brutal.
[1260.32 --> 1269.32]  There are people who have been posting examples of like the Disney Star Wars XD shows, the animated ones,
[1269.32 --> 1277.34]  where it's like a show about how gambling is bad based in the Star Wars universe.
[1278.32 --> 1280.16]  It's like a part of the Star Wars show.
[1280.20 --> 1280.88]  I think it's Rebels.
[1281.04 --> 1283.16]  And it's about how gambling is bad.
[1283.28 --> 1286.72]  And then they have a Star Wars game that has gambling in it.
[1286.72 --> 1289.16]  And you can say as much as you want, like this isn't a kid's game.
[1289.26 --> 1290.40]  Kids are going to play it.
[1292.06 --> 1294.92]  Like our generation, we played, I'm assuming you did as well.
[1295.04 --> 1295.46]  Grand Theft Auto.
[1295.54 --> 1296.68]  Shooter games pretty early.
[1296.72 --> 1297.08]  Bring it on.
[1297.16 --> 1300.02]  Grand Theft Auto was one of the ones that my parents were like, ah.
[1300.84 --> 1303.92]  I played it a little bit at like friends' houses and they knew and they didn't care.
[1304.04 --> 1306.66]  But like Halo, I was in there pretty early on.
[1306.74 --> 1308.36]  Counter-Strike, I was in there quite early on.
[1308.36 --> 1309.70]  Oh, it was anything goes when I grew up.
[1310.24 --> 1310.86]  Big time.
[1310.86 --> 1317.22]  And then like the thing is, now it's our generation and a little bit above that are starting to have, well, a fair bit above, I guess,
[1317.28 --> 1321.78]  that are starting to have kids at these ages that where you're talking about where they might watch something like Disney XD.
[1322.40 --> 1328.12]  You think our generation that grew up with like shooter games is going to care too much if someone plays Battlefront?
[1328.58 --> 1331.02]  Which is like pretty innocent for a shooter game.
[1331.28 --> 1331.62]  Oh, yeah.
[1332.32 --> 1335.28]  Like can you chop people up with your lightsaber?
[1335.92 --> 1336.82]  Humans, not just robots?
[1337.10 --> 1338.80]  I think it goes through them.
[1338.92 --> 1340.20]  I don't think they split in half.
[1340.20 --> 1341.16]  They just like fall over.
[1341.42 --> 1346.94]  Yeah, because like ever since I was eight, I've wanted to be able to just totally dismember people with charred remains.
[1347.16 --> 1347.32]  Yeah.
[1347.40 --> 1349.16]  I'm not sure I could be wrong on that.
[1350.34 --> 1353.10]  So if you can't do that, then like that's vanilla.
[1353.74 --> 1354.30]  That's vanilla.
[1354.30 --> 1355.28]  But like, I don't know.
[1355.38 --> 1357.98]  Kids are absolutely going to be playing this game.
[1358.10 --> 1360.30]  It doesn't matter that it's ESR, B-rated, whatever.
[1360.50 --> 1361.30]  I don't even know what it is.
[1361.34 --> 1361.94]  Might be M.
[1362.12 --> 1363.18]  I don't know what they are.
[1363.28 --> 1363.86]  I don't look at them.
[1363.94 --> 1364.54]  There's no way it's that.
[1364.54 --> 1365.72]  What is the normal rating?
[1366.04 --> 1366.26]  Teen.
[1366.40 --> 1367.16]  Okay, that makes sense.
[1367.26 --> 1367.78]  Teen, whatever.
[1368.22 --> 1369.66]  Kids are definitely going to be playing it.
[1370.70 --> 1371.68]  And gambling's in it.
[1372.26 --> 1376.72]  And like a gambling mechanic that makes you better at the game is in it.
[1376.90 --> 1377.58]  And that's bad.
[1377.74 --> 1379.00]  Because kids always want to be better.
[1379.26 --> 1383.08]  There's always that kid in your school that was like, my shoes make me run faster.
[1383.66 --> 1386.54]  Now there's going to be some kid being like, I have a better card for my ship.
[1386.76 --> 1387.38]  I'm better than you.
[1387.38 --> 1388.46]  Yeah.
[1388.60 --> 1393.50]  I can see kids at school being like, you suck at Battlefront because you're a scrub.
[1393.90 --> 1394.14]  Yeah.
[1394.56 --> 1396.42]  I bet they don't say scrub anymore.
[1397.88 --> 1399.70]  They should bring it back because it's retro way up.
[1399.88 --> 1402.48]  And it's pretty cool as far as I'm concerned.
[1402.48 --> 1404.52]  Laser James thinks you should bring scrub back.
[1404.52 --> 1404.92]  Yeah.
[1405.58 --> 1408.80]  I know we've talked about this topic for a long time, but it is pretty important.
[1408.88 --> 1409.80]  We can get on with it, though.
[1410.00 --> 1411.24]  We're pretty done, aren't we?
[1411.56 --> 1411.78]  Yeah.
[1411.82 --> 1415.66]  I guess I'll talk about the aftermath and kind of what to do and stuff.
[1415.98 --> 1419.54]  So a lot of people have been bringing this to local representatives because they're trying
[1419.54 --> 1422.82]  to get loot boxes and games classified as gambling.
[1423.06 --> 1426.52]  I do think, personally, that something needs to happen.
[1426.52 --> 1435.24]  I'm a little bit worried about how far seeing things in games as gambling could go because
[1435.24 --> 1439.60]  like randomized loot off of a monster that you have to farm by spending more time in the
[1439.60 --> 1444.42]  game where a game is subscription-based might be seen as gambling.
[1444.82 --> 1445.42]  Slippy slope.
[1445.72 --> 1448.82]  So it depends where it ends, but something needs to happen.
[1449.24 --> 1452.74]  And loot boxes are just horrible.
[1452.74 --> 1457.12]  So maybe contact your local authorities to some degree.
[1458.32 --> 1461.78]  Well, I can tell you the language that the Belgium Commission was using.
[1462.02 --> 1462.04]  Yeah.
[1462.40 --> 1465.98]  The Belgian Gambling Commission is investigating Battlefront because of loot boxes.
[1466.12 --> 1472.62]  And what they said was, loot crates that you purchase without knowing what's inside can
[1472.62 --> 1477.56]  be considered gambling because your ability to succeed in the game is dependent on chance.
[1477.80 --> 1479.10]  And therefore, it's a game of chance.
[1479.14 --> 1481.02]  And if it's a game of chance, then you need a permit.
[1481.02 --> 1485.94]  So if that individual item is purchased and it's a random chance.
[1486.38 --> 1487.92]  That's a good way to define it.
[1488.04 --> 1493.18]  Because I don't want to screw with random chance that is inherently built within games.
[1493.32 --> 1497.86]  Well, I think that the emphasis here, in my interpretation anyway, is that your success
[1497.86 --> 1499.38]  in the game really depends on it.
[1500.38 --> 1500.72]  Yeah.
[1500.96 --> 1504.96]  See, anyway, this is probably not a conversation to bother have on WAN Show.
[1504.96 --> 1510.36]  But that's where, like, if you get a legendary item in World of Warcraft, your success in
[1510.36 --> 1512.08]  the game could be based around getting that.
[1512.56 --> 1513.84]  It affects your success for sure.
[1514.02 --> 1516.82]  But it's not a loot crate.
[1516.92 --> 1519.24]  And it's a totally different style of system and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[1519.44 --> 1521.58]  It should be pretty easy to divide between.
[1521.68 --> 1522.98]  I don't think it's actually going to be a problem.
[1523.40 --> 1524.88]  So let's move on.
[1525.10 --> 1525.88]  Tough topic.
[1526.32 --> 1526.60]  Yeah.
[1526.76 --> 1528.86]  How about that face ID, that iPhone X?
[1528.98 --> 1529.12]  Yeah.
[1529.12 --> 1529.80]  Let's jump to that.
[1529.92 --> 1530.26]  Yeah.
[1530.26 --> 1532.26]  They did it.
[1532.54 --> 1533.00]  They hacked it.
[1533.16 --> 1534.14]  How did it happen exactly?
[1534.58 --> 1535.52]  It's so awesome.
[1536.10 --> 1537.66]  Bring up the pictures of this mask.
[1537.72 --> 1538.64]  It's actually a YouTube video.
[1538.74 --> 1540.76]  You can play the YouTube video just with the sound off.
[1540.84 --> 1541.16]  Is it on here?
[1541.16 --> 1542.08]  It has subtitles anyway.
[1542.70 --> 1543.08]  Yeah.
[1543.22 --> 1544.22]  It's one of the sources here.
[1544.24 --> 1544.56]  What the heck?
[1546.04 --> 1546.46]  Okay.
[1546.50 --> 1547.18]  I'm going to show.
[1548.70 --> 1554.96]  Security researchers in Vietnam have cracked Apple's new face ID using a composite mask consisting
[1554.96 --> 1559.54]  of a silicon nose, literally paper cut out 2D eyes.
[1559.54 --> 1563.06]  mounted on a plastic frame that they 3D printed.
[1565.58 --> 1565.90]  Okay.
[1566.30 --> 1567.94]  That's, this is no good.
[1568.34 --> 1569.04]  This is not it?
[1569.14 --> 1572.72]  Well, there's like a one, like a two minute video of them doing it.
[1572.72 --> 1572.84]  Yeah.
[1572.84 --> 1574.18]  This is 51 minutes.
[1574.32 --> 1575.72]  I was like, maybe I can find the right spot.
[1575.72 --> 1576.94]  I think it's linked from the forum thread.
[1577.04 --> 1577.30]  Okay.
[1577.38 --> 1577.82]  Give me a sec.
[1578.74 --> 1584.14]  So the caveat here is like, even though this mask only took 50 bucks to make, they did have
[1584.14 --> 1588.34]  to actually scan the victim's face with like a face scanner.
[1589.54 --> 1591.70]  So that's kind of integral to it.
[1591.70 --> 1595.94]  But other than that, the eyes were actually just printed out paper and it's a simple silicon
[1595.94 --> 1598.10]  nose, silicone nose.
[1598.34 --> 1602.02]  Getting a scan of someone's face is going to be not that easy.
[1602.10 --> 1603.26]  What did they have to scan it with?
[1603.26 --> 1610.24]  They used a handheld, like dedicated scanner, but they say that in the future, you might
[1610.24 --> 1612.02]  be able to use one of those just like cell phone ones.
[1612.38 --> 1612.72]  Yeah.
[1612.96 --> 1616.82]  Or even just construct the image with, with images.
[1617.04 --> 1618.44]  Like just use images to make the model.
[1618.46 --> 1618.64]  Yeah.
[1618.66 --> 1618.92]  Okay.
[1619.04 --> 1624.32]  Because if you could be like sitting across the table at dinner with someone and, oh,
[1624.32 --> 1625.22]  I'm just texting.
[1625.22 --> 1626.12]  On the bus or like.
[1626.34 --> 1626.40]  Yeah.
[1626.58 --> 1628.68]  And inadvertently get someone's.
[1628.68 --> 1629.86]  You have to go around them though, right?
[1629.86 --> 1630.30]  Yeah.
[1632.08 --> 1632.52]  Yeah.
[1633.08 --> 1638.12]  So not that far because they just have the white meshing on, on most of the sides.
[1639.68 --> 1641.60]  So he just used that thing to unlock.
[1642.32 --> 1644.40]  Like if you look at it, the size of the face.
[1644.40 --> 1649.18]  I think they might show the front at some point here, but there's a, there's a couple
[1649.18 --> 1651.20]  things about this.
[1652.12 --> 1656.76]  Number one is it's hilarious because at launch, Apple said that it worked with professional
[1656.76 --> 1661.42]  mask makers and makeup artists in Hollywood to make sure that a mask couldn't be used
[1661.42 --> 1663.16]  to hack face ID.
[1663.92 --> 1668.84]  And these like random dudes have already done it with something that doesn't look all that
[1668.84 --> 1669.34]  professional.
[1670.16 --> 1672.38]  Well, that's the other thing is especially the eyes.
[1672.38 --> 1676.78]  It's literally just printed out in like his face, a picture of his face.
[1676.88 --> 1680.50]  They cut out the eyes from that picture and put it onto this like mannequin head.
[1680.50 --> 1681.48]  And that's wild.
[1681.66 --> 1686.36]  And the reason that's especially interesting is because people thought from the patents
[1686.36 --> 1693.12]  that Apple took out that eye movement factored in to face ID, but this would suggest otherwise.
[1693.28 --> 1698.72]  And if eye movement doesn't factor into face ID, then that means that you can use potentially
[1698.72 --> 1703.86]  someone who's unconscious, knocked out, or even dead to unlock a phone, which is pretty
[1703.86 --> 1704.14]  scary.
[1704.14 --> 1708.80]  Even the touch, what do they call that?
[1709.00 --> 1709.42]  Touch ID.
[1709.94 --> 1710.16]  Huh.
[1710.44 --> 1710.62]  Yeah.
[1711.26 --> 1712.26]  They're super creative.
[1712.30 --> 1717.52]  Even touch ID, which Apple claims is like an order of magnitude less secure than face
[1717.52 --> 1717.76]  ID.
[1718.22 --> 1720.84]  Even that one, it sensed like the heat of your thumb.
[1721.04 --> 1726.34]  So if you'd been dead for more than like a couple hours or a day, they couldn't unlock
[1726.34 --> 1727.20]  your phone with your body.
[1727.36 --> 1727.58]  Yeah.
[1727.64 --> 1731.98]  You can do that slightly artificially by like external heating and all this other junk, but
[1731.98 --> 1733.82]  like it's, it's not that easy.
[1733.98 --> 1737.90]  It's a lot harder than just like, you know what I mean?
[1737.94 --> 1743.64]  Like it's, yeah, it's, there's always going to be a way to get through some form of security.
[1743.78 --> 1747.80]  Nothing is 100% secure, but like, it's kind of sad.
[1747.94 --> 1749.02]  This has already been done.
[1749.02 --> 1753.80]  And it's kind of, it's interesting because cameras on stuff like phones are constantly
[1753.80 --> 1757.26]  getting better and they're constantly starting to implement things like depth scanning and
[1757.26 --> 1758.08]  all this other stuff.
[1758.08 --> 1763.76]  So we're going to get closer and closer progressively to breaking through this being easier and easier.
[1763.88 --> 1768.00]  The security on this gets worse over time, unless they're actively improving it.
[1768.32 --> 1769.82]  And we'll have to fight against that.
[1769.84 --> 1770.34]  It does improve.
[1770.34 --> 1770.80]  It does improve itself.
[1771.02 --> 1772.30]  As you use it more and more.
[1772.36 --> 1772.52]  Yeah.
[1772.56 --> 1777.66]  Like I've heard of people being locked out when they put their glasses on and it had, when
[1777.66 --> 1780.64]  they did the initial scan, they weren't wearing glasses or their hair wasn't in their face.
[1780.68 --> 1781.74]  So then it locks you out.
[1781.88 --> 1782.78]  You enter your code.
[1782.78 --> 1787.20]  And when you enter your code, it's like, oh, the model that we just took, like you with
[1787.20 --> 1789.10]  glasses on, we're going to add that to the model now.
[1789.70 --> 1791.16]  So that's, that's just annoying.
[1791.60 --> 1795.40]  That's expanding the model, but it's not necessarily making it more secure.
[1795.86 --> 1799.08]  Like, see, like the having hair in your face and stuff is just annoying.
[1799.36 --> 1800.86]  I don't, I don't want to deal with any of this stuff.
[1800.86 --> 1801.68]  Because it gets in your eyes?
[1801.92 --> 1802.50]  Well, no.
[1803.80 --> 1804.36]  Good call.
[1804.46 --> 1804.80]  Good call.
[1804.80 --> 1810.04]  But like, like with touch ID, if I just like with mine, it's not touch ID, but I have a
[1810.04 --> 1811.00]  fingerprint sensor on the back.
[1811.54 --> 1812.76]  It doesn't matter what situation I'm in.
[1812.96 --> 1814.24]  I could be completely covered in mud.
[1814.68 --> 1818.18]  If I just like wipe my finger off real quick and go burp, I get in my phone.
[1818.64 --> 1818.76]  Yeah.
[1818.78 --> 1819.88]  Well, you still got the passcode.
[1820.20 --> 1824.36]  And that, but like, it's just, I don't know, but it's pretty sick that like, I can't
[1824.36 --> 1825.38]  even remember the last time you used a passcode.
[1825.38 --> 1827.02]  That's still an action that you're taking, right?
[1827.08 --> 1830.60]  You're deciding, granted that it's muscle memory that you do automatically after a while.
[1830.60 --> 1830.88]  Yeah.
[1830.88 --> 1836.86]  You're still taking an action to unlock your phone, whereas Apple is pursuing a time when
[1836.86 --> 1839.58]  you just kind of go like, do not, no, you don't even do that.
[1839.66 --> 1843.02]  You're just like, look, like by the time you look at your phone, it's unlocked.
[1843.38 --> 1844.04]  That's sick.
[1844.28 --> 1845.80]  So they're like trying to get there, I guess.
[1845.82 --> 1846.90]  They should be aspiring to that.
[1846.96 --> 1849.22]  That's because that's optimal use case as long as it's secure.
[1849.60 --> 1850.66]  It's not there yet though.
[1851.36 --> 1851.76]  Evidently.
[1851.94 --> 1854.54]  It's slower than touch ID, which is frustrating.
[1855.46 --> 1856.78]  Fingerprint is pretty insecure though.
[1856.86 --> 1856.98]  Yeah.
[1856.98 --> 1857.92]  It has a lot of issues too.
[1857.92 --> 1859.78]  It's like one in 50,000 or something like that.
[1860.88 --> 1861.60]  Yeah.
[1862.00 --> 1863.90]  It's like, I don't know.
[1868.00 --> 1869.96]  There's a bunch of problems with their methodologies here.
[1870.04 --> 1872.54]  So the story is absurdly short-sighted.
[1872.84 --> 1874.70]  Is there though?
[1874.76 --> 1881.00]  Because some people were saying that it's possible that when they registered their face, they had
[1881.00 --> 1885.30]  their face obscured or something like that, or tried to make their face kind of more like
[1885.30 --> 1887.98]  the mask so that they were more similar.
[1887.98 --> 1888.46]  Yeah.
[1888.62 --> 1892.12]  But they, and there hasn't been, there's no way to verify that.
[1892.32 --> 1897.52]  But the researchers did say that they made four other masks that didn't work.
[1897.86 --> 1903.26]  And once those ones failed, they re-registered, re-registered their face on the face ID.
[1903.50 --> 1909.28]  And that after registering their face, they didn't do any passcode entries to update it.
[1909.80 --> 1910.60]  That's what they say.
[1910.60 --> 1911.04]  Yeah.
[1912.16 --> 1912.68]  I don't know.
[1913.06 --> 1920.00]  If nothing else, all I really want this to stand for is to reinforce that anything can
[1920.00 --> 1920.74]  be broken into.
[1922.16 --> 1925.46]  No one should ever consider anything absolutely secure.
[1926.22 --> 1928.02]  This might be better.
[1928.26 --> 1929.80]  I don't necessarily think it's easier.
[1930.38 --> 1932.88]  When I go to, I always use my phone when it's in my hand.
[1932.96 --> 1935.02]  I never go like, I'm going to look at it while it's on the table.
[1935.02 --> 1936.52]  Um, so.
[1936.82 --> 1937.22]  Linus does.
[1937.38 --> 1940.22]  We talked about this once and he was like, he hated that the fingerprint things were on
[1940.22 --> 1943.34]  the back because he often wants to like just unlock it when it's on the table.
[1943.54 --> 1943.62]  Yeah.
[1943.76 --> 1944.56]  He's told me that.
[1944.66 --> 1945.22]  I don't, I don't do that.
[1945.22 --> 1947.00]  I just heard a lot of boo, hoo, hoo.
[1947.16 --> 1949.02]  And I was like, that doesn't apply to me.
[1949.04 --> 1949.28]  Whatever.
[1949.40 --> 1950.06]  I don't care about that.
[1950.14 --> 1950.96]  Doesn't apply to me either.
[1951.08 --> 1954.92]  So like, and it's become a natural part of picking up the phone to unlock it.
[1955.04 --> 1955.42]  Oh yeah.
[1955.42 --> 1957.14]  It's unlocked by the time you get to it.
[1957.22 --> 1957.46]  Yeah.
[1957.46 --> 1961.96]  So the speed thing doesn't help for me personally and face ID is slower.
[1961.96 --> 1965.00]  Ed's over there mad because he's an Apple user and he just doesn't know what it's like
[1965.00 --> 1966.58]  to have that fingerprint reader on the back.
[1967.12 --> 1968.04]  Do you have a 10?
[1968.20 --> 1968.82]  Gravy baby.
[1969.12 --> 1969.30]  What?
[1969.58 --> 1970.30]  Do you have a 10?
[1970.38 --> 1970.56]  No.
[1970.74 --> 1970.96]  No?
[1971.04 --> 1971.46]  I wish.
[1971.94 --> 1972.54]  You wish.
[1972.56 --> 1973.56]  It's the perfect phone.
[1974.02 --> 1975.24]  He says it's the perfect phone.
[1975.24 --> 1977.34]  It's probably the pinnacle of phone technology.
[1977.34 --> 1981.08]  I don't think anyone's going to make anything better after this.
[1981.26 --> 1981.60]  Even Apple.
[1982.28 --> 1982.94]  Yeah, maybe.
[1983.04 --> 1983.92]  This is the end.
[1984.44 --> 1985.16]  Maybe it is the end.
[1985.16 --> 1990.28]  I don't know if you guys can hear that, but just in case any of you missed it, that was
[1990.28 --> 1990.88]  sarcasm.
[1991.74 --> 1993.00]  It's a fantastic tool.
[1993.52 --> 1995.46]  But yeah, I don't know.
[1996.26 --> 2000.72]  I just don't like it for a lot of reasons personally, but if you do like it, that's great.
[2000.90 --> 2001.36]  Run with it.
[2001.48 --> 2002.18]  Do whatever you want.
[2002.28 --> 2003.38]  Personal preferences are awesome.
[2003.54 --> 2006.42]  Just do know that nothing is completely secure.
[2006.86 --> 2010.82]  We should also mention that the fact that you can scan someone's face and then make a
[2010.82 --> 2014.12]  mask and unlock their phone, that's like espionage level packing.
[2014.12 --> 2014.52]  Yeah.
[2014.78 --> 2019.74]  It's more likely they're just going to run by you and grab it or grab it and then choke
[2019.74 --> 2023.82]  hold you and make your face look at it and then run away or steal your phone and go,
[2023.90 --> 2024.56]  hey, is this your phone?
[2024.72 --> 2025.44]  And then you look at it.
[2025.48 --> 2025.90]  Yeah, it is.
[2026.08 --> 2026.64]  And then they run.
[2029.20 --> 2029.56]  Thanks.
[2032.18 --> 2034.28]  That would actually work way too well.
[2034.32 --> 2034.80]  That's pretty good, eh?
[2034.80 --> 2038.88]  If a guy with a balaclava comes up to you and says, is this your phone?
[2038.88 --> 2039.42]  Is this your phone?
[2039.76 --> 2039.92]  Go.
[2039.92 --> 2040.24]  Don't.
[2040.40 --> 2040.64]  No.
[2042.02 --> 2042.68]  Turn it over.
[2045.76 --> 2049.26]  So everyone's going to have to carry around masks so that if they have to chase someone
[2049.26 --> 2050.84]  who steals their phone, they can put the mask on.
[2050.84 --> 2052.26]  The solution to this is more masks.
[2052.36 --> 2052.68]  Yes.
[2053.14 --> 2053.44]  Yeah.
[2053.86 --> 2055.72]  Take those laws away that we can't wear masks.
[2055.84 --> 2058.96]  Everyone has to wear a mask so that when they go to unlock their phone, they just go,
[2059.38 --> 2059.52]  huh?
[2059.52 --> 2060.48]  And then put it back down.
[2060.48 --> 2060.56]  Yeah.
[2060.62 --> 2063.46]  It just occurred to me that there's going to be people in the Middle East who want to
[2063.46 --> 2064.24]  use face unlock.
[2065.00 --> 2069.02]  Do they just not use face unlock?
[2069.42 --> 2070.58]  Do they just only use it at home?
[2070.68 --> 2071.18]  Use a passport?
[2071.50 --> 2072.74]  Or just use the passcode.
[2072.74 --> 2073.16]  In public?
[2074.26 --> 2074.50]  Yeah.
[2075.08 --> 2075.78]  Never thought of that.
[2077.22 --> 2077.54]  Yeah.
[2078.36 --> 2079.16]  Moving on.
[2079.28 --> 2079.72]  Anyways.
[2079.88 --> 2080.14]  Okay.
[2080.14 --> 2082.42]  Last night, I got to watch this awesome live stream.
[2082.70 --> 2083.14]  Oh.
[2083.44 --> 2084.28]  Of Elon Musk.
[2086.10 --> 2087.16]  It can't be Elon.
[2088.16 --> 2089.28]  Did you really say Elon?
[2089.94 --> 2090.14]  What?
[2090.56 --> 2091.86]  Elon Musk DeGeneres.
[2092.46 --> 2094.88]  They had a child together and they hyphenated the last name.
[2095.10 --> 2095.50]  Oh.
[2097.02 --> 2099.10]  That, like, that hurt physically.
[2100.30 --> 2101.52]  Oh, I need a moment.
[2101.66 --> 2102.06]  Anyways.
[2102.20 --> 2102.44]  Okay.
[2102.70 --> 2102.92]  So.
[2103.26 --> 2104.32]  No, I was going to say no, it's Elon.
[2105.00 --> 2105.34]  Yeah.
[2105.48 --> 2107.40]  They finally unveiled the semi truck.
[2107.94 --> 2108.38]  Yes.
[2108.78 --> 2110.94]  Which I think is pretty B.A.
[2110.94 --> 2116.14]  The question on everyone's mind is, when and where are you going to be able to make these
[2116.14 --> 2121.68]  things, given that you're struggling so hard to produce the Model 3 for the next, like,
[2121.72 --> 2122.32]  two years.
[2123.00 --> 2127.10]  And you're spending a billion dollars per quarter on doing that.
[2127.10 --> 2128.96]  You can't just build another gigafactory.
[2129.62 --> 2132.44]  Apparently, they're going to start shipping or not shipping.
[2132.64 --> 2135.18]  They're going to start producing the semi truck in 2019.
[2135.62 --> 2135.76]  Yeah.
[2135.76 --> 2140.38]  And the new Roadster, which is going to be the fastest car, fastest production car by acceleration
[2140.38 --> 2141.06]  in the world.
[2141.38 --> 2142.08]  That's 2020.
[2142.08 --> 2142.84]  Yeah.
[2143.36 --> 2147.68]  So, things could happen before 2020 and change that claim.
[2147.98 --> 2151.46]  But as of right now, it theoretically is, which is really cool.
[2151.90 --> 2156.68]  There's a lot of really awesome things about the truck, but there are concerns.
[2156.68 --> 2158.84]  Like you just said, how are you going to make this?
[2159.04 --> 2162.64]  I do know their production lines are constantly increasing.
[2163.46 --> 2170.18]  So, maybe a theory somewhere says that they'll be able to actually make them properly by 2019.
[2170.18 --> 2172.66]  Maybe one will be made in 2019.
[2172.96 --> 2174.96]  Aren't they making two more gigafactories as well?
[2175.32 --> 2176.88]  They're constantly expanding.
[2177.34 --> 2185.06]  So, I can't claim to know what is going to happen in terms of their production line.
[2186.08 --> 2188.04]  Semi truck itself is pretty dope, though.
[2188.44 --> 2189.06]  Did you check it out?
[2189.46 --> 2190.34]  It looks cool.
[2190.44 --> 2191.36]  It looks pretty cool.
[2191.36 --> 2196.96]  And I've been saying for quite a long time that semi trucks and trucks in general are going
[2196.96 --> 2203.04]  to be super important for Tesla because trucks, things that need huge amounts of torque, are
[2203.04 --> 2205.60]  going to benefit from electric engines a ton.
[2205.80 --> 2207.10]  Now, there are some issues.
[2207.44 --> 2214.08]  Coming from the trucking industry, like my grandfather, his job, actually, for like basically
[2214.08 --> 2219.56]  ever was financing semi trucks for people and companies that want to get into trucking.
[2219.56 --> 2226.18]  So, a super important detail is cost per kilometer or cost per mile.
[2226.40 --> 2228.58]  And they talked about that in the stream.
[2229.36 --> 2234.70]  That was a direct call out for companies and financial institutions that finance these semi
[2234.70 --> 2236.30]  trucks because they're extremely expensive.
[2236.70 --> 2238.68]  That was a direct, hey, look at us.
[2238.92 --> 2243.02]  It's going to be easier to get loans because you can throw this number, which is one of the
[2243.02 --> 2245.20]  most important numbers when you're buying a truck.
[2245.20 --> 2247.26]  That is, it is cheaper per kilometer.
[2247.46 --> 2252.28]  You can also throw in numbers, like the truck is guaranteed for whatever amount of distance
[2252.28 --> 2253.88]  if you have a breakdown.
[2254.60 --> 2256.36]  It's some ridiculous number.
[2257.62 --> 2258.30]  Oh, yeah, yeah.
[2258.32 --> 2258.82]  What was that?
[2258.94 --> 2259.70]  If you have a break.
[2259.88 --> 2260.16]  Oh, yeah.
[2260.24 --> 2264.76]  What happened was it's got four separate independent engines and two of them can break down and
[2264.76 --> 2267.40]  you can still go like 400 miles or something like that.
[2267.90 --> 2268.24]  Yeah.
[2268.64 --> 2269.96]  It's not in this document.
[2270.52 --> 2270.80]  Okay.
[2270.94 --> 2274.48]  By the way, speaking of price, they did not mention an absolute price at all.
[2274.48 --> 2278.26]  They only mentioned price per mile, which they put at 20% cheaper.
[2278.42 --> 2279.38]  Again, it was only relative.
[2279.70 --> 2284.00]  20% cheaper than a comparable diesel truck.
[2284.20 --> 2286.48]  It includes the cost of the...
[2287.04 --> 2288.40]  They're not just talking about the truck.
[2288.50 --> 2292.50]  They're talking about like the entire thing, like buying it and insurance and operating it
[2292.50 --> 2293.52]  and maintenance.
[2294.96 --> 2297.36]  Maintenance is going to be a big reason why that number is lower.
[2297.54 --> 2297.92]  Yeah, yeah.
[2297.92 --> 2299.18]  I'm just going to put that out there right now.
[2299.48 --> 2303.02]  Another huge issue, only goes 500 miles on one charge.
[2303.02 --> 2306.66]  Uh, the only there is probably not properly placed.
[2306.80 --> 2307.94]  Someone in chat said only.
[2307.94 --> 2310.96]  Most trucking routes are able to be there and back within that time.
[2311.22 --> 2314.86]  And truckers are mandated to take breaks.
[2315.26 --> 2319.10]  Um, that is a huge deal in, I know, North America.
[2319.18 --> 2320.12]  I don't know outside of that.
[2320.50 --> 2322.60]  Um, you have to take breaks.
[2322.60 --> 2329.64]  And that is within the amount of distance that you would be able to reasonably travel within one of your breaks easily.
[2329.64 --> 2331.22]  Your break has to be half an hour.
[2331.46 --> 2334.88]  During the break, it can charge for 500 miles of further distance...
[2334.88 --> 2337.70]  Or 400 miles of further distance during that break.
[2337.78 --> 2338.76]  And you'd be able to keep going.
[2340.38 --> 2342.20]  That's not really a major point.
[2342.26 --> 2344.10]  As long as they actually have the...
[2344.10 --> 2345.64]  I think they're called supercharging stations.
[2345.70 --> 2347.64]  I think actually he dropped megacharger.
[2348.60 --> 2348.96]  Megacharger.
[2349.12 --> 2349.84]  Yeah, megacharging stations.
[2349.84 --> 2352.12]  Sounds like it's going to be like a separate kind of network.
[2352.24 --> 2355.64]  I'm thinking of it kind of the same way you drive by a card lock gas station.
[2356.16 --> 2356.64]  Oh, yeah.
[2356.68 --> 2357.06]  You know what I mean?
[2357.06 --> 2358.18]  It's like, oh, that's for semis.
[2358.32 --> 2359.72]  It's going to have to be like that.
[2359.82 --> 2361.72]  I wouldn't be surprised if it was kind of its own thing.
[2361.78 --> 2365.66]  So a typical diesel truck can go a thousand miles on a full tank.
[2365.78 --> 2367.84]  Do you know how long it takes to fill up that tank?
[2368.28 --> 2369.40]  When you're standing there filling it up?
[2369.56 --> 2371.60]  I think he said 15 minutes.
[2371.86 --> 2372.14]  No, no.
[2372.18 --> 2374.04]  I'm talking about like a normal diesel truck.
[2374.36 --> 2374.72]  Oh!
[2375.12 --> 2376.74]  It'll take a while to fill that puppy up.
[2377.40 --> 2378.88]  I assume it would take a little while.
[2379.04 --> 2380.98]  It's going to take longer to charge this truck.
[2381.28 --> 2385.12]  But one of his points was that you don't have to stand there the whole time, I guess.
[2385.12 --> 2388.40]  It is definitely going to take longer to charge it.
[2388.50 --> 2392.14]  But I don't think there's going to be a bunch of truck drivers leaning against their truck
[2392.14 --> 2397.14]  while it sips electricity or gulps, I guess, electricity from the network.
[2398.00 --> 2405.12]  He also talked about a guaranteed price for semi-trucks at seven cents per...
[2405.64 --> 2406.58]  What unit would that be?
[2406.58 --> 2406.92]  Kilowatt?
[2406.96 --> 2408.88]  I don't remember exactly what they used.
[2409.12 --> 2409.84]  Is that also in here?
[2409.84 --> 2410.40]  Must be kilowatt.
[2410.40 --> 2413.30]  That's not in the document either, but he did.
[2413.48 --> 2414.66]  He had a guaranteed price.
[2414.82 --> 2415.56]  Which is a big deal.
[2415.86 --> 2419.64]  Also a big deal in terms of getting financial support for trucks.
[2419.84 --> 2422.14]  One big question that I haven't...
[2422.14 --> 2423.22]  I'm sure...
[2423.22 --> 2423.38]  Okay.
[2423.94 --> 2427.38]  I haven't seen anyone ask it, but I am absolutely certain someone has.
[2427.78 --> 2428.46]  So...
[2428.46 --> 2429.28]  And I haven't looked.
[2429.54 --> 2431.70]  So that's kind of an issue that I haven't looked for it.
[2431.90 --> 2433.70]  But a big problem is going to be weight.
[2434.50 --> 2435.86]  They didn't talk about it on the stream.
[2435.86 --> 2441.36]  And there's a lot of weighing stations for trucks because roads can only support a certain amount of weight.
[2441.50 --> 2443.40]  And the batteries are going to weigh a lot.
[2443.54 --> 2444.48]  I did see this, yeah.
[2444.64 --> 2451.68]  I think naked, it is going to be heavier than a naked normal diesel truck.
[2451.68 --> 2453.12]  I think that's going to be a big issue.
[2453.24 --> 2455.50]  There's weighing stations like all over the place.
[2456.88 --> 2458.22]  They did not address that.
[2459.74 --> 2461.20]  Did you see the cockpit design?
[2461.20 --> 2465.24]  Yeah, so it's 500 miles with 32.2 tons of cargo.
[2465.38 --> 2466.56]  So at max capacity.
[2467.10 --> 2468.22]  Is that the heaviest class?
[2469.10 --> 2472.00]  A lot of the stats he gave out were for the heaviest class of truck.
[2472.38 --> 2474.76]  Like the speed and the range and everything.
[2475.80 --> 2476.20]  So...
[2477.16 --> 2478.94]  The lack of engine might compensate for that.
[2479.40 --> 2483.40]  Yeah, but if you look at the Model S, it's actually a pretty heavy car.
[2484.50 --> 2486.40]  Because of the battery and all that other stuff.
[2486.42 --> 2487.52]  You have to do more than look at it.
[2487.52 --> 2488.56]  You probably have to try to lift it.
[2488.56 --> 2493.44]  But apparently weigh stations are for trailer load and balance, not total load.
[2493.56 --> 2493.72]  Oh!
[2495.42 --> 2495.82]  Okay.
[2496.04 --> 2496.86]  We have some really...
[2496.86 --> 2497.56]  We just got everyone.
[2497.70 --> 2498.40]  All kinds in that.
[2498.40 --> 2500.36]  Now someone said weigh stations are for total weight.
[2500.62 --> 2501.22]  Who knows?
[2501.66 --> 2502.26]  I just...
[2502.26 --> 2504.82]  It wasn't addressed in the stream and it made me worry a little bit.
[2504.94 --> 2506.52]  But this will be huge.
[2506.60 --> 2509.20]  Another big thing that they brought up was convoy mode.
[2509.30 --> 2511.12]  This isn't the first time we've seen convoy mode.
[2511.72 --> 2514.60]  I've been in a car that was doing convoy mode before.
[2515.38 --> 2516.26]  You've been in a convoy?
[2516.26 --> 2517.10]  I have...
[2517.10 --> 2517.74]  Convoy!
[2519.18 --> 2526.00]  But essentially, the cost per mile or per kilometer goes down drastically when you have
[2526.00 --> 2527.16]  these trucks in convoy mode.
[2527.28 --> 2528.26]  I believe...
[2528.26 --> 2530.18]  I don't think he went over it in exhaustive detail.
[2530.32 --> 2534.54]  But I believe because they talk to each other and they can run really closely together.
[2534.70 --> 2535.92]  Drafting very efficiently.
[2536.04 --> 2536.18]  Okay.
[2536.26 --> 2539.56]  So I didn't hear this from the stream last night.
[2539.74 --> 2541.16]  But it was in the article I read today.
[2541.16 --> 2541.80]  Okay.
[2541.88 --> 2543.12]  They said that in convoy...
[2543.12 --> 2546.12]  The reason convoy mode is so much cheaper...
[2546.12 --> 2548.72]  In fact, Musk said it was cheaper than rail.
[2549.14 --> 2549.82]  Yes, apparently.
[2550.60 --> 2551.76]  But he didn't show the rail number.
[2551.94 --> 2554.08]  You only need a driver in the front truck.
[2554.98 --> 2555.38]  Okay.
[2555.54 --> 2555.94]  Yes.
[2556.80 --> 2557.76]  That's a thing.
[2557.86 --> 2558.24]  Is that...
[2558.24 --> 2559.98]  Well, they even showed it in the animation.
[2560.14 --> 2561.26]  There was a person in the front truck.
[2561.34 --> 2563.02]  There's no people in the ones following it.
[2563.26 --> 2564.62]  That was a very important note.
[2564.76 --> 2565.34]  That's crazy.
[2566.22 --> 2567.06]  But is that...
[2567.06 --> 2569.28]  So did they bake in the cost of the driver?
[2569.90 --> 2570.26]  Definitely.
[2570.64 --> 2571.44]  They must have.
[2571.92 --> 2572.92]  Otherwise, that doesn't matter.
[2573.42 --> 2573.78]  So...
[2573.78 --> 2580.86]  But I mean, in the initial Tesla semi versus diesel semi comparison, was the cost of the
[2580.86 --> 2581.00]  driver...
[2581.00 --> 2581.32]  No, no, no.
[2581.44 --> 2582.10]  I don't think so.
[2582.18 --> 2586.72]  Because in the second number, when he said in convoy mode, he was comparing those against
[2586.72 --> 2588.30]  the other ones, not against train.
[2588.48 --> 2590.40]  And he said it was like 80 cents or something.
[2591.12 --> 2594.14]  I would think at that comparison, I mean, it's a company.
[2594.14 --> 2596.60]  They're going to make their numbers look as good as they can.
[2596.78 --> 2601.54]  I would assume that they'd be like, yeah, but it's like, you know, two thirds cheaper
[2601.54 --> 2602.96]  because there's only one driver involved.
[2603.52 --> 2606.92]  And that is a realistic consideration if you're dispatching those trucks.
[2606.92 --> 2607.46]  Well, yeah.
[2609.66 --> 2611.00]  Mostly, I think.
[2611.36 --> 2617.62]  I wonder how they're going to accomplish this because convoy mode makes sense for highways,
[2617.86 --> 2618.82]  which is what they showed it on.
[2618.90 --> 2620.34]  But the second you get to a city...
[2620.34 --> 2620.36]  Exactly.
[2620.50 --> 2623.32]  You're not going to be able to convoy for the entire trip.
[2623.60 --> 2623.86]  Yeah.
[2624.14 --> 2625.42]  You're going to have to turn off at something, right?
[2625.42 --> 2627.62]  So what do you do for the rest of the drivers?
[2628.16 --> 2630.38]  Well, they are getting their enhanced autopilot.
[2630.38 --> 2631.58]  I missed this.
[2631.68 --> 2633.38]  Maybe Twitch chat knows what's going on.
[2634.18 --> 2635.44]  Enhanced autopilot's there, definitely.
[2635.44 --> 2635.96]  For all of them.
[2636.12 --> 2636.24]  Yeah.
[2636.24 --> 2640.94]  And if this is like one to two years out, maybe it'll be even better by then.
[2642.28 --> 2646.52]  Elon did not avoid talking about autopilot.
[2646.98 --> 2648.74]  He brought it up directly in the stream.
[2648.74 --> 2651.74]  He said that they would have all their most modern...
[2652.38 --> 2653.60]  Yeah, that's true.
[2653.70 --> 2654.56]  But he didn't say that.
[2654.68 --> 2655.72]  He may not have...
[2655.72 --> 2659.24]  What they're saying doesn't address our question of whether or not he said that about convoy
[2659.24 --> 2659.48]  mode.
[2660.02 --> 2660.36]  Oh.
[2660.68 --> 2660.80]  Oh, yeah.
[2660.80 --> 2663.80]  Elon did say that they're all going to get an enhanced autopilot for sure.
[2664.20 --> 2664.46]  Yeah.
[2664.46 --> 2669.78]  In the video, there isn't drivers in the trucks behind the first one.
[2669.78 --> 2670.00]  Okay.
[2670.04 --> 2670.68]  I didn't notice that.
[2670.76 --> 2671.42]  So that's good.
[2673.58 --> 2673.94]  Yeah.
[2674.60 --> 2675.76]  It's going to be interesting.
[2677.24 --> 2678.36]  Does it have air brakes?
[2679.70 --> 2680.96]  Oh, it has the...
[2680.96 --> 2682.94]  He did talk about braking a bit because it's got the...
[2682.94 --> 2683.54]  You never have to repair some.
[2683.54 --> 2685.40]  It has the regenerative braking.
[2685.40 --> 2690.76]  So I was actually at a Tesla Divaship the other day and I was asking if with the regenerative
[2690.76 --> 2693.46]  braking, can you coast just as well as you can?
[2693.46 --> 2696.50]  Because for me, when I'm driving, I actually coast quite a bit.
[2696.76 --> 2696.82]  Yeah.
[2697.60 --> 2701.54]  And he told me, as a person who's never driven a Tesla, he said, actually, you can't really
[2701.54 --> 2703.72]  coast worth a crap when the regenerative braking is on.
[2703.74 --> 2705.32]  It slows you down pretty fast.
[2705.36 --> 2705.50]  Yeah.
[2705.66 --> 2708.48]  But the upside of that is you barely ever have to use your brake pads.
[2708.48 --> 2709.16]  You almost never need a brake.
[2709.66 --> 2710.66]  Which is what he said here.
[2710.68 --> 2712.80]  He didn't say anything about air brakes.
[2713.86 --> 2714.78]  Would that even work?
[2715.92 --> 2722.58]  I don't have a very good understanding of how semi-trucks work, but I don't think it would
[2722.58 --> 2722.84]  work.
[2723.46 --> 2723.86]  Anyways.
[2724.00 --> 2724.88]  What about that Roadster, though?
[2725.32 --> 2725.96]  The Roadster.
[2726.06 --> 2726.16]  Yeah.
[2726.20 --> 2727.10]  I guess we can move on to that.
[2727.10 --> 2730.86]  At the end of the whole semi-truck thing, it was kind of like a one more thing moment.
[2731.12 --> 2731.24]  Yeah.
[2731.26 --> 2738.24]  And they popped open the hatch and a new Tesla Roadster drove out of the back of the trailer
[2738.24 --> 2739.62]  that the semi-truck was towing.
[2739.76 --> 2742.36]  It can do 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds.
[2742.36 --> 2746.18]  It can do 0 to 100 in, I believe, 4.9.
[2746.26 --> 2747.10]  I don't see that on here.
[2747.14 --> 2752.90]  I didn't see that, but I actually do have a list of linked Wikipedia of the fastest zero
[2752.90 --> 2753.60]  second speeds.
[2753.82 --> 2757.94]  And I was like, oh, I wonder if they killed some records from other super expensive cars.
[2757.94 --> 2760.90]  Well, they kind of just beat their own record.
[2761.08 --> 2761.24]  Yeah.
[2761.74 --> 2762.22]  Yeah.
[2762.60 --> 2762.82]  Yeah.
[2763.22 --> 2763.74]  It's awesome.
[2763.74 --> 2769.22]  It can go 620 miles or 1,000 kilometers on a single charge.
[2769.32 --> 2772.90]  He was happy because they broke the 1,000 kilometer ceiling, which is pretty cool.
[2773.06 --> 2773.64]  And it seats four.
[2774.14 --> 2774.62]  Yeah.
[2774.72 --> 2775.54]  It's a two plus two.
[2775.70 --> 2777.12]  Production starts in 2020.
[2777.60 --> 2782.78]  The first 1,000 cars will cost 250 grand each.
[2783.12 --> 2784.68]  Paid in full up front.
[2785.72 --> 2785.96]  Woo.
[2786.12 --> 2788.42]  With later cars starting at 200 grand.
[2788.42 --> 2792.60]  So presumably the first 1,000 they're going to sell are going to be the tricked out ones.
[2792.64 --> 2792.86]  Yeah.
[2793.22 --> 2793.36]  Yeah.
[2793.44 --> 2794.40]  Which makes a lot of sense.
[2795.16 --> 2796.26]  I love this quote.
[2796.64 --> 2800.68]  Elon said, and his stuttering is removed from this quote.
[2801.82 --> 2802.72]  Come on.
[2803.26 --> 2804.04]  Come on.
[2804.06 --> 2808.26]  He said, the point of doing this is just to give a hardcore smackdown to gasoline cars.
[2808.44 --> 2813.00]  Driving a gasoline sports car is going to feel like a steam engine with a side of quiche.
[2814.14 --> 2814.76]  That's wicked.
[2815.00 --> 2815.76]  That was pretty funny.
[2815.76 --> 2820.18]  We'll just take the voice crack out of when people quote yours.
[2821.64 --> 2822.04]  Harsh.
[2822.98 --> 2823.38]  Okay.
[2823.48 --> 2824.38]  I deserve some harshness.
[2824.44 --> 2824.96]  I love you, Elon.
[2825.42 --> 2825.78]  Yeah.
[2825.82 --> 2826.36]  I was just kidding.
[2826.50 --> 2828.66]  He speaks that way because he uses a particular language.
[2829.16 --> 2830.64]  He's very careful about his words.
[2831.26 --> 2834.22]  Anyways, moving on to someone in the chat guessed it.
[2835.02 --> 2835.38]  Sponsors.
[2835.58 --> 2835.86]  Maybe.
[2836.12 --> 2836.90]  Thank you very much.
[2837.02 --> 2837.42]  Heck yeah.
[2837.56 --> 2838.22]  I fix it.
[2838.28 --> 2838.58]  Thank you.
[2838.58 --> 2840.00]  Someone in the chat is like, I love that.
[2840.46 --> 2840.82]  Please.
[2841.44 --> 2842.72]  Please make them show up.
[2842.72 --> 2843.42]  I fix it.
[2843.42 --> 2846.12]  This $59.95 ProTech Toolkit.
[2846.20 --> 2846.82]  It's awesome.
[2847.14 --> 2852.70]  It's a 64-bit driver kit, which is easily my favorite part and probably the mainstay feature
[2852.70 --> 2854.64]  of someone took the driver.
[2854.76 --> 2855.42]  That's how good it is.
[2855.48 --> 2855.98]  It's just that awesome.
[2856.20 --> 2856.32]  Yeah.
[2856.32 --> 2863.62]  It has a ton of other stuff in it as well, including little tweezers and pry tools and
[2863.62 --> 2864.90]  anti-static strap.
[2865.06 --> 2866.48]  Which we use here all the time.
[2866.96 --> 2867.20]  Yeah.
[2867.66 --> 2873.90]  And suction cups for taking screens off of things, which is a major issue with very specific
[2873.90 --> 2874.52]  devices.
[2876.52 --> 2878.06]  ESD safe tweezers even.
[2878.26 --> 2879.78]  I forgot to mention that part.
[2879.78 --> 2884.20]  But also, if you just want some awesome free guides on how to fix things, which does include
[2884.20 --> 2887.64]  the use of their kit, you can just go to ifixit.com.
[2887.68 --> 2890.82]  They have 25,000 free repair guides for devices.
[2890.98 --> 2893.58]  They also do repairability scores.
[2893.84 --> 2898.14]  So if you're interested in buying something, you can check into how repairable it is so you
[2898.14 --> 2901.74]  know if it's going to have a long life because you yourself are going to be able to fix it,
[2901.82 --> 2903.50]  which is actually really cool.
[2903.60 --> 2904.58]  They're like their own movement.
[2905.28 --> 2905.82]  Sort of, actually.
[2905.82 --> 2906.48]  They're like a culture.
[2906.82 --> 2912.14]  Bringing repairability and craftsman traits back to society because it's kind of faltered
[2912.14 --> 2912.82]  a little bit lately.
[2912.96 --> 2913.72]  Anyways, moving on.
[2914.10 --> 2915.66]  Ifixit.com slash Linus.
[2915.96 --> 2919.08]  Get your ProTech toolkit now for $59.95 USD.
[2920.20 --> 2920.98]  Moving on.
[2921.18 --> 2921.72]  Mack Weldon.
[2921.84 --> 2923.82]  I am wearing a Mack Weldon shirt.
[2926.20 --> 2926.64]  Damn.
[2927.46 --> 2928.64]  Damn, that's a good shirt.
[2928.76 --> 2932.28]  I wish my shirt that's not Mack Weldon had a front pocket that I could hang these in.
[2933.06 --> 2933.56]  I could.
[2933.88 --> 2934.70]  Now they're on the floor.
[2934.70 --> 2940.86]  Anyways, Mack Weldon believes in smart design, premium fabrics, and simple shopping, which
[2940.86 --> 2941.30]  is great.
[2941.38 --> 2944.26]  It's actually, it is quite a simple shopping experience, which is not too bad.
[2944.52 --> 2949.34]  Mack Weldon will be the most comfortable underwear, socks, shirts, undershirts, hoodies, and sweatpants
[2949.34 --> 2950.96]  that you will ever wear.
[2951.96 --> 2952.36]  Wow.
[2952.98 --> 2953.56]  What a claim.
[2953.76 --> 2955.84]  Even if you're not a nudist and you do wear other stuff.
[2956.12 --> 2956.32]  Yeah.
[2956.40 --> 2957.12]  This will still be better.
[2957.38 --> 2957.60]  Yeah.
[2957.94 --> 2958.92]  They want you to be comfortable.
[2959.14 --> 2962.16]  So if you don't like your first pair, you can keep it and they will still refund you
[2962.16 --> 2966.28]  no questions asked, which is pretty major for a claim to be made from a company.
[2966.56 --> 2967.36]  You can try it out.
[2967.54 --> 2968.14]  No big deal.
[2968.52 --> 2972.02]  Which is probably fair because you probably don't want to send your underwear back because
[2972.02 --> 2973.28]  that would sort of be weird.
[2973.74 --> 2975.00]  Go to MackWeldon.com.
[2975.06 --> 2980.28]  Get 20% off using promo code TECHTIPS and get some clothing today.
[2980.28 --> 2983.10]  Moving on.
[2983.38 --> 2984.22]  Zotac giveaway.
[2985.12 --> 2988.18]  I'm going to get you to Vanna White this box.
[2988.98 --> 2989.56]  There you go.
[2990.40 --> 2992.96]  Our holiday giveaway with Zotac is still happening.
[2993.08 --> 2995.72]  We announced this on the WAN show a little bit ago, just in case you didn't know.
[2995.98 --> 2999.62]  They're giving away three different models of their Zbox Mini PCs.
[3000.44 --> 3003.54]  One of them is the PI225.
[3003.96 --> 3009.74]  It is a desktop performance and mobile flexibility crammed into a PC the size of a 2.5 inch SSD.
[3010.06 --> 3010.88]  It is tiny.
[3011.10 --> 3012.92]  This thing is absolutely miniature.
[3013.26 --> 3013.90]  Really cool.
[3014.02 --> 3015.00]  There's a computer in this box?
[3015.40 --> 3016.04]  In that one, yes.
[3017.00 --> 3018.62]  That is not the tiny one that I'm talking about.
[3018.84 --> 3020.26]  That's more like gaming focus.
[3020.40 --> 3021.48]  VR ready sticker?
[3021.60 --> 3026.66]  There's a gaming ready, VR ready computer in this box?
[3026.76 --> 3027.14]  Yes, sir.
[3027.46 --> 3028.26]  Yes, ladies and James.
[3028.62 --> 3029.38]  Ladies and James.
[3030.36 --> 3032.04]  I meant to say Laser James.
[3032.14 --> 3032.42]  My bad.
[3032.46 --> 3034.32]  Ladies and James, there is a computer in this box.
[3035.32 --> 3038.50]  It has a whole bunch of great features, which is actually fantastic.
[3038.60 --> 3040.48]  Moving on, we have the MI553.
[3040.74 --> 3043.30]  Great for multi-purpose utility kind of setups.
[3043.76 --> 3045.28]  And then we have the Zbox.
[3045.54 --> 3046.38]  I believe it's this one.
[3046.46 --> 3046.68]  Yes.
[3047.90 --> 3049.08]  EN1070K-U.
[3049.20 --> 3054.26]  How is it that this is more BA than consoles and smaller?
[3054.60 --> 3055.00]  Oh, owned.
[3055.18 --> 3056.26]  Get it together, consoles.
[3056.54 --> 3056.74]  Oh, owned.
[3057.54 --> 3060.68]  It has a Core i5-7500T.
[3060.90 --> 3068.10]  It has an NVIDIA GTX 1060 or GTX 1070, depending on which configuration you select.
[3068.54 --> 3069.96]  It's, yeah, it's great.
[3069.96 --> 3074.18]  The Zbox giveaway is at a little bit of a funky link.
[3074.90 --> 3076.18]  Oh, I didn't click on the right thing.
[3076.38 --> 3076.78]  Here we go.
[3077.08 --> 3082.94]  The Zbox giveaway is on a little bit of a funky link, which I will try to post in the Twitch
[3082.94 --> 3084.04]  chat right now.
[3084.04 --> 3085.88]  Oh, is this going to be a problem?
[3085.88 --> 3089.44]  Why get an Xbox when you can have a Zbox?
[3090.72 --> 3095.56]  If you want to enter the giveaway, check out gleam.io slash wow.
[3095.56 --> 3102.20]  Uh, msfdx slash zotac dash zbox dash mini dash pc dash giveaway.
[3102.62 --> 3104.48]  And you can enter there or check out on YouTube.
[3104.64 --> 3105.64]  It'll be in the description below the video.
[3105.64 --> 3106.92]  It is just that easy.
[3107.26 --> 3110.82]  That'll be a lot easier to grab there.
[3111.50 --> 3112.32]  Oh my god.
[3112.50 --> 3114.80]  Let me see if I can just get into the Twitch chat here.
[3115.50 --> 3117.04]  There's all sorts of stuff in here.
[3117.20 --> 3117.94]  Tons of things.
[3118.00 --> 3119.64]  It's even smaller than the box it's in.
[3119.74 --> 3120.48]  It's like a computer.
[3120.48 --> 3122.14]  I would hope.
[3122.66 --> 3123.40]  That would be good.
[3124.04 --> 3125.34]  Okay, this is going to work.
[3125.46 --> 3126.50]  All right, link coming.
[3126.86 --> 3127.46]  Hold on.
[3129.82 --> 3130.78]  That's really yellow.
[3131.18 --> 3131.46]  Boom.
[3132.24 --> 3132.64]  Boom.
[3132.98 --> 3133.34]  Boom.
[3133.90 --> 3134.34]  Boom.
[3134.68 --> 3135.34]  There you go.
[3136.16 --> 3136.60]  Booyah!
[3136.68 --> 3137.20]  Twitch chat.
[3137.54 --> 3138.60]  You have the link now.
[3138.84 --> 3140.00]  I can't close this anymore.
[3140.92 --> 3141.74]  It's in the chat.
[3141.82 --> 3142.84]  We're just going to put this down.
[3143.18 --> 3143.78]  You guys are good.
[3145.52 --> 3146.12]  Moving on.
[3146.20 --> 3146.96]  Yes, here, I'll take it.
[3147.10 --> 3147.36]  Thank you.
[3147.88 --> 3148.44]  Thank you.
[3148.44 --> 3151.42]  You did a great job with your van awaiting.
[3151.72 --> 3152.54]  I appreciate it.
[3153.50 --> 3154.20]  Moving on.
[3154.20 --> 3154.62]  I wish I was a verb.
[3155.78 --> 3156.40]  You were a verb?
[3156.62 --> 3156.90]  Yeah.
[3157.06 --> 3157.86]  She's a verb now.
[3159.06 --> 3161.56]  Man, I just want to laser james right now.
[3161.98 --> 3163.78]  Yeah, I saw I was laser jaming last night.
[3165.48 --> 3169.46]  Anyways, back to basically sponsor spots.
[3169.60 --> 3171.24]  Flowplane, bunch of cool stuff.
[3171.24 --> 3175.72]  We have a tech wiki on how stealth technology works, which is sick.
[3175.82 --> 3177.22]  I'm going to watch that one.
[3177.28 --> 3178.32]  That's actually pretty cool.
[3179.44 --> 3182.24]  We have a video on the OnePlus 5T.
[3182.34 --> 3185.12]  We have a hands-on for that, which is pretty neat.
[3185.22 --> 3186.62]  We have a video that I hosted.
[3186.84 --> 3187.50]  Whoa, what?
[3187.60 --> 3188.16]  That's weird.
[3188.52 --> 3192.66]  It's the Xbox One X versus PS4 Pro versus $500 PC.
[3193.08 --> 3194.30]  Results may surprise you.
[3194.36 --> 3195.60]  Oh, I've got to watch that one, too.
[3195.88 --> 3196.50]  It's interesting.
[3198.18 --> 3200.42]  Everyone's response to it is exactly what I expected.
[3200.76 --> 3201.14]  Nice.
[3201.42 --> 3201.68]  Yeah.
[3201.86 --> 3203.00]  Everyone who's on Floatplane.
[3203.00 --> 3203.98]  Everyone who's on Floatplane.
[3204.06 --> 3205.44]  Not like YouTube peasants.
[3205.82 --> 3208.20]  It will be coming to YouTube later, but it's on Floatplane now.
[3208.28 --> 3209.00]  Yeah, and it's Friday.
[3209.12 --> 3210.22]  So what are you going to do all weekend?
[3210.90 --> 3212.02]  You don't have stuff to do.
[3212.58 --> 3214.74]  Unless you're a Floatplaner.
[3215.04 --> 3216.60]  Or coming to my charity stream.
[3216.78 --> 3217.14]  Oh, yeah.
[3217.20 --> 3217.42]  True.
[3217.82 --> 3218.66]  And are a Floatplaner.
[3218.66 --> 3219.82]  I've got so much stuff to do.
[3219.82 --> 3220.76]  What a double combo.
[3221.18 --> 3223.84]  TechWiki on Powerline Ethernet, which is actually super interesting.
[3223.98 --> 3224.96]  Powerline Ethernet is weird.
[3225.06 --> 3226.50]  It's Internet that goes through your power lines.
[3226.80 --> 3227.66]  Sort of makes sense.
[3227.88 --> 3227.96]  What?
[3227.96 --> 3230.16]  I don't even know what that is, let alone how it works.
[3230.46 --> 3231.28]  It's pretty neat, though.
[3231.80 --> 3233.22]  The opportunities for education are immense.
[3233.50 --> 3234.06]  It's amazing.
[3234.50 --> 3235.64]  Tons of really cool videos.
[3236.06 --> 3237.38]  Razorblade 4K review.
[3237.54 --> 3238.90]  I don't think that's on YouTube yet.
[3239.04 --> 3242.08]  And that has probably one of the best skits in a video we've ever done.
[3242.64 --> 3246.64]  Oh, is that the one with me when I'm in this coat?
[3247.88 --> 3248.86]  No, that was a phone.
[3249.84 --> 3250.54]  I don't think it's that.
[3250.56 --> 3250.88]  All right.
[3251.42 --> 3251.90]  Are you in this?
[3251.90 --> 3252.84]  We've got lots of good skits.
[3253.12 --> 3253.94]  I'm not in it.
[3254.52 --> 3254.76]  Oh.
[3255.48 --> 3255.76]  Yeah.
[3256.00 --> 3256.94]  Can't be the best skit.
[3257.12 --> 3257.40]  No.
[3258.10 --> 3259.36]  The best skit would have us both.
[3259.54 --> 3259.84]  Yeah.
[3260.62 --> 3260.94]  Yeah.
[3261.28 --> 3261.48]  Yeah.
[3262.96 --> 3263.32]  Yeah.
[3263.70 --> 3264.74]  Self-batpacking.
[3264.76 --> 3265.48]  Yeah, we're guards.
[3265.76 --> 3266.52]  Bat-packing?
[3266.86 --> 3270.24]  I love how every once in a while the words just come out in super weird ways.
[3270.24 --> 3270.42]  Everyone gets it.
[3270.62 --> 3271.22]  Everyone knows.
[3271.54 --> 3271.92]  All right.
[3272.08 --> 3272.68]  Firefox.
[3273.00 --> 3273.80]  That topic.
[3274.10 --> 3275.18]  Might as well move on to it.
[3275.36 --> 3275.52]  Yeah.
[3275.58 --> 3279.82]  You should open up the source number two because we can check it out on the screen.
[3280.02 --> 3281.06]  And there's lots to see.
[3281.20 --> 3282.10]  I need to find it.
[3283.22 --> 3283.96]  There we go.
[3284.02 --> 3284.30]  Got it.
[3284.36 --> 3289.50]  The Firefox Hardware Survey, which uses telemetry supplied by the browser to assess what hardware
[3289.50 --> 3295.50]  participants are using, has revealed some surprising statistics related to GPU market share.
[3296.02 --> 3296.24]  Yeah.
[3296.24 --> 3299.90]  So we can not see right here because this is in the way, but I'm just going to move us.
[3299.90 --> 3303.06]  Turns out more people, maybe.
[3303.06 --> 3304.26]  For graphics.
[3304.50 --> 3307.16]  We've got AMD at 15%.
[3307.16 --> 3310.06]  We've got Intel at 65%.
[3310.06 --> 3312.90]  So that's the built-in graphics on your CPU that they're talking about.
[3313.00 --> 3313.74]  Integrated graphics.
[3313.74 --> 3314.72]  NVIDIA.
[3314.72 --> 3314.74]  Yeah.
[3314.74 --> 3314.76]  NVIDIA.
[3314.76 --> 3315.78]  14%.
[3315.78 --> 3317.52]  That's 1% behind AMD.
[3317.52 --> 3318.36]  What the heck?
[3318.36 --> 3318.92]  What?
[3318.92 --> 3320.76]  What a surprise.
[3320.76 --> 3323.30]  I mean, this isn't just people in the world.
[3323.92 --> 3325.30]  This is Firefox users.
[3325.72 --> 3325.96]  Yeah.
[3326.00 --> 3327.10]  Who filled out the survey?
[3327.50 --> 3330.24]  Or wait, did anyone actively fill this out?
[3330.32 --> 3330.76]  Is it just...
[3330.76 --> 3331.72]  Firefox Hardware Report.
[3331.82 --> 3332.36]  I think you have to...
[3332.36 --> 3334.74]  You have to like opt in to supply data or whatever, right?
[3335.66 --> 3340.44]  So it's possible there's a selection bias where AMD people are just the type of people who opt
[3340.44 --> 3341.12]  into this stuff.
[3341.80 --> 3343.08]  Doesn't seem likely to me, but it's possible.
[3343.08 --> 3345.44]  I don't think that's necessarily what's going on.
[3345.44 --> 3348.86]  I have a main theory for this.
[3349.70 --> 3355.08]  Firefox right now is the like, this is the ethical choice of browsers.
[3355.54 --> 3357.54]  This is the underdog browser.
[3358.04 --> 3360.84]  This is the browser that not the mainstream uses.
[3361.18 --> 3362.90]  Oh, and those are the same people as 2Red.
[3362.90 --> 3365.48]  You can rebel and use this browser.
[3365.66 --> 3366.06]  I see.
[3366.60 --> 3372.52]  It's similar arguments to don't use the big mainstream scary guy thing that a lot of the
[3372.52 --> 3373.52]  AMD guys are making.
[3373.52 --> 3376.80]  And I think it might make sense that there are more of them on this platform.
[3377.26 --> 3381.18]  Regardless, even if that is true, this is still super cool.
[3381.74 --> 3382.18]  Definitely.
[3382.62 --> 3383.20]  This is good.
[3383.38 --> 3388.92]  People, for some reason, are comparing this to uses or stats that we had from Steam's hardware
[3388.92 --> 3389.38]  survey.
[3389.88 --> 3393.58]  TPCS is coming in with the sassy, Luke, where have you been?
[3395.20 --> 3397.94]  This has been the case with Firefox for years.
[3398.64 --> 3403.46]  So yeah, apparently that might actually be more true of a statement than I've been...
[3403.46 --> 3404.48]  So he's backing up your theory.
[3404.70 --> 3405.74]  Yeah, I guess.
[3406.14 --> 3406.62]  Indirectly.
[3406.62 --> 3407.64]  He doesn't know.
[3408.20 --> 3408.56]  Yeah.
[3408.84 --> 3410.18]  We don't even know that he's a he.
[3410.18 --> 3410.70]  No one actually knows.
[3411.10 --> 3412.08]  Yes, that's true.
[3412.32 --> 3412.54]  Yeah.
[3412.76 --> 3414.58]  I don't think anyone actually really knows.
[3414.76 --> 3417.74]  But I wouldn't be surprised if that is at least part of it.
[3418.14 --> 3422.36]  For some reason, people are saying that this is super at odds with the Steam hardware
[3422.36 --> 3424.98]  survey, the latest iteration of which came out in October.
[3424.98 --> 3425.42]  Yeah.
[3425.64 --> 3431.68]  Where the GPU market share for NVIDIA was over 80% and AMD was only 10% and Intel integrated
[3431.68 --> 3433.38]  graphics was only like 7.5%.
[3433.38 --> 3436.08]  It's pretty obvious why these numbers are so vastly different.
[3436.32 --> 3436.46]  Yeah.
[3436.56 --> 3440.38]  Selection bias being you're someone who has Steam installed.
[3440.52 --> 3441.46]  So you're a gamer.
[3441.68 --> 3442.98]  So you're less likely to have integrated graphics.
[3444.02 --> 3449.34]  And if you're going to have a gaming type of GPU, it's likely going to be NVIDIA.
[3449.50 --> 3450.16]  Surprise, surprise.
[3450.16 --> 3452.16]  Most people on the internet don't have a gaming PC.
[3454.20 --> 3460.26]  They're probably using laptops even that just don't have any form of dedicated graphics.
[3460.48 --> 3462.88]  And it's all integrated on chips and you can't even add one.
[3462.92 --> 3468.14]  Or they're using older like Best Buy PCs that were just like home PCs that don't have graphics
[3468.14 --> 3468.46]  cards.
[3468.54 --> 3473.36]  Even though it's like obviously a weird comparison to make, I can see why it's being made.
[3473.42 --> 3478.54]  Because those Steam hardware stats get cited a lot, particularly in displays.
[3478.54 --> 3483.70]  Like the fact that only 4% of Steam players have 4K monitors.
[3483.90 --> 3488.28]  Like that stat gets thrown around all the time when people are talking about how prevalent
[3488.28 --> 3489.34]  4K monitors really are.
[3490.18 --> 3490.96]  So, okay.
[3492.80 --> 3496.24]  Steam stats are popular, but they just really don't have any relevance here.
[3496.74 --> 3496.96]  Yeah.
[3497.02 --> 3499.14]  It doesn't matter for this specific use case.
[3499.32 --> 3501.98]  And there's a lot of cheaper laptops.
[3502.10 --> 3505.56]  I don't know if necessarily right now, but at least when I worked in retail that sold with
[3505.56 --> 3506.54]  AMD graphics.
[3506.54 --> 3509.28]  So, it was...
[3509.28 --> 3513.86]  I actually probably sold more laptops at that point in time that had AMD graphics because
[3513.86 --> 3515.22]  it was more affordable.
[3516.10 --> 3518.70]  So, more people were buying them from my store.
[3519.82 --> 3522.00]  I didn't own the store, but the store that I worked at.
[3522.40 --> 3523.84]  Can we see that page again?
[3524.20 --> 3524.52]  Yeah.
[3524.52 --> 3526.00]  Because it had more than just GPUs on there.
[3526.44 --> 3526.78]  Yeah.
[3526.78 --> 3528.18]  That was an interesting part, too.
[3528.30 --> 3530.56]  So, it has quite a few different things.
[3530.80 --> 3533.32]  It even has operating system, which I find fascinating.
[3533.48 --> 3536.10]  Windows 7 was at 46%, which is...
[3536.10 --> 3536.56]  Wow.
[3536.82 --> 3537.12]  What?
[3537.12 --> 3537.90]  Actually pretty crazy.
[3538.02 --> 3539.04]  Windows 10 is only 54%.
[3539.04 --> 3540.62]  That gives credence to your theory, then.
[3540.84 --> 3541.70]  This is a certain...
[3541.70 --> 3543.28]  Like, a certain type of person uses Firefox.
[3543.28 --> 3547.04]  These are people that intensely resisted upgrading to Windows 10.
[3547.16 --> 3547.98]  That's crazy.
[3548.34 --> 3549.48]  I love Windows 7.
[3550.12 --> 3550.40]  Wow.
[3550.48 --> 3554.20]  I stayed on Windows 7 for a long time, but the only reason why I moved off of it was
[3554.20 --> 3557.80]  because of the constant super aggressive annoying pressure from Windows 10.
[3558.06 --> 3560.72]  So, I moved to a Windows 8.1 embedded copy.
[3560.80 --> 3561.52]  So, you goof, man.
[3561.52 --> 3562.02]  I wouldn't bug me.
[3562.04 --> 3563.44]  I'm still on 98 and sick.
[3563.74 --> 3564.16]  Nice.
[3564.24 --> 3564.40]  Yeah.
[3564.56 --> 3565.44]  So, I'll tear all day.
[3565.54 --> 3566.24]  That's pretty legit.
[3566.56 --> 3567.42]  That's pretty cool.
[3567.46 --> 3567.96]  All day.
[3568.32 --> 3571.84]  After that, we've got 1% of users on Windows XP.
[3572.14 --> 3572.58]  Guys!
[3573.20 --> 3573.94]  Come on!
[3575.00 --> 3575.44]  Update!
[3576.08 --> 3576.44]  Man!
[3576.50 --> 3576.72]  Never!
[3577.28 --> 3578.26]  What are you doing?
[3579.46 --> 3579.86]  Oh.
[3580.14 --> 3580.94]  Those are just work computers.
[3580.94 --> 3583.50]  8% of people on Windows 8.1 represent!
[3584.22 --> 3584.94]  That's me!
[3584.94 --> 3587.00]  You think there's a sliver for Vista in there?
[3588.18 --> 3589.58]  Mac OS 5%.
[3589.58 --> 3590.88]  Other 6%.
[3590.88 --> 3592.30]  There's your Vista.
[3592.76 --> 3593.10]  Yeah.
[3593.28 --> 3594.64]  There's a few people on Vista.
[3595.26 --> 3599.94]  Speaking of Firefox users, these people are going to be pretty pumped because Firefox
[3599.94 --> 3601.46]  Quantum is out now.
[3601.62 --> 3602.28]  Have you used this yet?
[3602.30 --> 3603.28]  I have used it.
[3603.36 --> 3604.40]  I'm actually loving it.
[3604.50 --> 3604.82]  Really?
[3605.02 --> 3605.30]  Yeah.
[3605.32 --> 3605.58]  I even tweeted about this.
[3605.58 --> 3607.04]  I was thinking about taking it for a spin.
[3607.26 --> 3607.88]  It's good.
[3608.08 --> 3608.44]  Should I?
[3608.56 --> 3608.98]  Yeah.
[3608.98 --> 3613.76]  So, I've seen people having issues.
[3614.40 --> 3616.66]  I have not personally had any issues.
[3616.76 --> 3616.98]  Okay.
[3616.98 --> 3621.34]  I know there's some things where people like certain specific add-ons that aren't quite
[3621.34 --> 3622.34]  on Quantum yet.
[3622.82 --> 3627.28]  Some people don't like how certain parts of the browser aren't customizable.
[3627.28 --> 3629.46]  But, um...
[3629.46 --> 3631.52]  Let's talk about the core value proposition of this browser.
[3632.24 --> 3637.78]  According to Mozilla, Firefox Quantum is over twice as fast as the Firefox from just six
[3637.78 --> 3638.28]  months ago.
[3638.62 --> 3644.76]  Built on a completely overhauled core engine and boasting a stylish new design, dubbed Photon
[3644.76 --> 3648.44]  UI, which streamlines a number of elements included in previous releases.
[3648.44 --> 3650.38]  So, I'm not going to lie.
[3651.04 --> 3653.52]  This marketing ticked a lot of people off.
[3653.90 --> 3657.56]  And for reasons that I understand.
[3658.04 --> 3659.28]  Do they show it here?
[3660.74 --> 3661.30]  Somewhere.
[3661.72 --> 3664.04]  They showed, like, two times faster.
[3664.44 --> 3670.12]  And then they show a comparison of Firefox Quantum versus the most recent version of Chrome.
[3670.60 --> 3675.16]  So, people don't realize that they were talking about a previous version of Firefox.
[3676.48 --> 3677.04]  Okay.
[3677.04 --> 3683.38]  Because they show two times faster in big, bold text, and then directly beside it, a comparison
[3683.38 --> 3684.78]  of Quantum versus Chrome.
[3684.84 --> 3685.02]  Right.
[3685.06 --> 3688.24]  When they're meaning two times faster than their own product.
[3689.18 --> 3694.54]  They do say Quantum is faster to load a number of popular websites than Chrome is.
[3694.68 --> 3694.92]  Yeah.
[3696.02 --> 3699.82]  Including Wikipedia, Bing, no one cares, Tumblr, and Shutterstock.
[3700.74 --> 3701.58]  No one cares.
[3702.04 --> 3702.30]  I like that.
[3702.30 --> 3707.80]  Firefox uses around 30% less memory than Chrome, Edge, and Safari on Windows.
[3707.80 --> 3711.32]  So, there's some things going on here.
[3711.42 --> 3715.80]  One thing that I did appreciate is that in their own testing, in their own video, showing
[3715.80 --> 3718.90]  load time comparisons between Quantum and Chrome.
[3718.90 --> 3723.84]  It shows Quantum winning quite often.
[3724.06 --> 3725.46]  Not by two times.
[3725.46 --> 3729.98]  And someone in the chat says, in fairness, in the comparison video, it shows fairly equivalent
[3729.98 --> 3730.38]  speeds.
[3730.78 --> 3733.86]  If I remember correctly, Quantum wins usually.
[3734.24 --> 3736.56]  And I'm sure they cherry-picked sites to a certain degree.
[3737.28 --> 3742.12]  But I know at least one point in time, the Chrome browser did beat the Quantum browser.
[3742.12 --> 3742.64]  In their own video.
[3742.78 --> 3744.08]  And they included it in their own video.
[3744.18 --> 3744.44]  That's cool.
[3744.46 --> 3745.42]  I thought that was pretty cool.
[3745.42 --> 3750.26]  So, it was a weird, like, we're going to show ourselves losing, and at the same time,
[3750.32 --> 3751.94]  we're going to do super misleading marketing.
[3753.06 --> 3754.76]  So, it was like, what?
[3756.54 --> 3761.08]  So, like, if anyone actually watched the video at all, they would have known something was
[3761.08 --> 3761.32]  up.
[3761.54 --> 3763.78]  But, yeah, it's been a delight to use it so far.
[3763.88 --> 3765.08]  I think it looks great.
[3765.68 --> 3767.52]  It's run great for me.
[3768.22 --> 3770.62]  Floatplane runs on it beautifully.
[3771.14 --> 3772.28]  Just want to put that out there.
[3772.28 --> 3777.52]  Linus Tech Tips writer Anthony Young chimed in virtually, saying, Firefox users may also
[3777.52 --> 3780.12]  be more likely to be running APUs.
[3782.08 --> 3782.48]  Yeah.
[3782.62 --> 3785.50]  So, if we want to jump back slightly to that topic.
[3786.20 --> 3788.64]  This was six minutes ago that he sent me that.
[3789.74 --> 3790.12]  Bop, bop, bop.
[3790.26 --> 3793.58]  We can look at the processor section, which is shown to you guys good.
[3793.96 --> 3795.76]  Intel is at 88%.
[3795.76 --> 3798.08]  AMD is at 12%.
[3798.08 --> 3801.78]  I don't know what the Steam Hardware Survey for that is, but I wouldn't be surprised if
[3801.78 --> 3804.24]  on the Steam Hardware Survey, Intel was even higher.
[3805.10 --> 3805.52]  You think?
[3806.84 --> 3807.20]  Yeah.
[3807.40 --> 3810.52]  There were so many years where AMD wasn't putting out a new CPU, right?
[3810.60 --> 3810.96]  Yeah, yeah.
[3810.96 --> 3812.90]  So, I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised.
[3813.26 --> 3816.34]  But it's not like AMD is crushing the processor side of things.
[3816.54 --> 3817.66]  Back to the quantum thing.
[3817.84 --> 3820.82]  I was like, ah, I should actually just check this out.
[3820.82 --> 3825.96]  Because I used to use Firefox forever until Chrome came out in 2008.
[3826.08 --> 3827.92]  I just wanted to check it out, and I liked the design.
[3828.28 --> 3829.32]  I haven't used Firefox since.
[3829.36 --> 3831.18]  I was like, I should go back to my roots here.
[3831.66 --> 3835.30]  But then I had the thought, well, it'll be like two weeks until Chrome is better again.
[3835.38 --> 3837.36]  They'll just make a new version.
[3837.46 --> 3837.84]  It'll be better.
[3837.84 --> 3841.44]  I like using Firefox, and it is very fast.
[3841.62 --> 3845.78]  It's fast to the point where when using the previous, they said six months ago, it's two
[3845.78 --> 3846.76]  times faster than six months ago.
[3846.86 --> 3848.00]  It was notably slower.
[3849.86 --> 3852.50]  And now it's not notably slower.
[3852.66 --> 3855.12]  It's fast enough that I click on a site, and it just loads.
[3855.50 --> 3856.64]  But here's something that made me reconsider.
[3856.78 --> 3861.90]  I saw a quote from, I'm not sure if it was a CEO, but someone at Mozilla who was like,
[3862.66 --> 3865.28]  my biggest fear is that people just won't try it.
[3865.28 --> 3867.48]  I just want people to try it.
[3867.74 --> 3870.14]  And I read that, and I kind of tugged my heartstrings a bit.
[3870.22 --> 3871.52]  I was like, you know what, man?
[3872.06 --> 3872.62]  For you?
[3872.92 --> 3873.78]  I'll try it.
[3874.28 --> 3874.90]  I didn't yet.
[3875.86 --> 3877.86]  But I think I want to.
[3877.96 --> 3878.58]  I'm going to check it out.
[3878.58 --> 3878.84]  Wow.
[3878.96 --> 3883.44]  I don't know if people remember, but in a lot of my older videos, I used to wear, I have
[3883.44 --> 3885.54]  a couple, two different shirts.
[3885.72 --> 3891.22]  One of them just has the Firefox logo on it, and another one says, I am protecting the world's
[3891.22 --> 3892.40]  largest resource.
[3892.40 --> 3895.36]  And on the back, it talks about Firefox.
[3896.16 --> 3898.38]  I kind of support them a little bit.
[3898.52 --> 3898.68]  Nice.
[3898.82 --> 3903.58]  I even have a little Firefox plushy thing, because I used to be like, when I actually programmed
[3903.58 --> 3906.76]  things, I used to be a big fan of Firefox.
[3907.16 --> 3912.92]  And I stopped using it because it was directly interfering with my day-to-day work.
[3912.92 --> 3918.90]  Because Firefox was crashing so often, or was slow, and all these other issues.
[3919.56 --> 3925.42]  And I excitedly, but with a lot of fear, installed Quantum.
[3925.82 --> 3928.12]  Because I was like, I really don't want this to fail me again.
[3928.50 --> 3930.26]  They are making a lot of strong claims.
[3930.60 --> 3931.78]  I'm going to give it a shot.
[3931.92 --> 3933.06]  And I gave it a strong shot.
[3933.18 --> 3935.18]  I installed all my different add-ons.
[3935.30 --> 3937.84]  I customized it, made it look exactly the way I wanted it to.
[3937.84 --> 3939.68]  And then dove deeply in.
[3939.76 --> 3940.52]  I have it on my work computer.
[3940.62 --> 3941.60]  I have it on my home computer.
[3941.64 --> 3943.10]  And now you're fully entangled.
[3943.22 --> 3943.78]  It's on my phone.
[3944.50 --> 3944.88]  It's great.
[3945.10 --> 3945.48]  You get it?
[3945.58 --> 3946.06]  It's been awesome.
[3946.22 --> 3946.96]  Anybody get that joke?
[3947.06 --> 3947.72]  It was a Quantum joke.
[3948.10 --> 3948.46]  Oh!
[3949.40 --> 3949.72]  Yes!
[3949.78 --> 3950.56]  That is good.
[3950.66 --> 3951.16]  That is good.
[3951.70 --> 3957.34]  Speaking of, I really hope that in the near future, these companies stop using Q or Quantum
[3957.34 --> 3958.38]  in their branding.
[3958.48 --> 3962.42]  Because there's going to come a point where there are actual products with actual Quantum capabilities.
[3962.42 --> 3964.36]  And we need to be able to differentiate that.
[3964.66 --> 3964.92]  Yes.
[3965.60 --> 3966.34]  That is actually.
[3966.80 --> 3967.48]  You know what I mean?
[3967.56 --> 3967.96]  Stop it.
[3967.96 --> 3969.54]  I immediately thought about that when I saw the name.
[3969.62 --> 3970.74]  I was like, is it actually?
[3970.74 --> 3971.28]  Oh, did they?
[3971.40 --> 3972.56]  Yeah, we're getting on the cusp, right?
[3972.64 --> 3973.08]  Like, nah.
[3973.32 --> 3973.82]  In what way?
[3973.94 --> 3974.62]  Well, I was actually.
[3974.74 --> 3979.84]  I thought it might be like some super wacko experimental thing that they were working on.
[3980.16 --> 3981.64]  And then I was like, oh, it's just their new browser.
[3981.80 --> 3981.96]  What?
[3982.36 --> 3983.78]  That actually was a little bit confusing.
[3983.98 --> 3984.28]  So, yeah.
[3984.34 --> 3985.38]  I hear you on that one.
[3985.38 --> 3987.52]  But, yeah.
[3987.66 --> 3988.04]  I don't know.
[3988.12 --> 3993.48]  I think it's cool having a browser that actually isn't made by a company that aggressively
[3993.48 --> 3997.06]  profits off of harvesting every single thing that you do in your entire life.
[3998.12 --> 3998.68]  That's weird.
[3999.64 --> 4000.14]  You know?
[4000.64 --> 4001.88]  Like, I don't know.
[4002.10 --> 4003.84]  Kind of down with the Firefox a little bit.
[4004.24 --> 4005.62]  So, we've been doing this for long enough.
[4005.68 --> 4006.82]  But do you want to do a couple more?
[4007.66 --> 4008.52]  I mean, I'm down.
[4008.62 --> 4009.74]  We have been doing this long enough.
[4009.78 --> 4010.34]  What do you want to do?
[4010.98 --> 4012.34]  Oh, there's so many exciting ones.
[4012.52 --> 4012.68]  Okay.
[4013.16 --> 4014.38]  There's some rapid fire ones.
[4014.78 --> 4015.00]  Okay.
[4015.00 --> 4015.92]  Apple HomePod.
[4016.14 --> 4017.22]  The big speaker.
[4017.44 --> 4020.54]  It's kind of a smart speaker from Apple.
[4021.56 --> 4021.96]  Delayed.
[4022.46 --> 4023.98]  Missing out on the holiday season.
[4024.30 --> 4026.42]  This brings joy to my heart, actually.
[4027.48 --> 4031.06]  I'm actually kind of an anti-fanboy with Apple.
[4031.16 --> 4032.00]  I do respect Apple.
[4032.04 --> 4035.34]  And I think a lot of their products are pretty objectively sick.
[4035.58 --> 4036.56]  Like, they're sweet.
[4036.72 --> 4039.22]  But, on the other hand, sometimes I like a little win.
[4039.56 --> 4040.80]  I like when...
[4040.80 --> 4042.70]  Because it's not that I don't like Apple.
[4043.70 --> 4044.90]  It's like a satisfying...
[4044.90 --> 4046.42]  Satisfying stab.
[4046.98 --> 4047.20]  Yeah.
[4047.20 --> 4049.30]  I don't like Apple fanboys.
[4049.42 --> 4050.98]  So, I'm like a counterforce to that.
[4052.64 --> 4053.40]  Oh, stop.
[4053.54 --> 4054.32]  Get out of here.
[4054.68 --> 4056.26]  You're talking about the ad, not me, right?
[4056.26 --> 4056.58]  Yes.
[4056.58 --> 4057.12]  Okay, great.
[4057.64 --> 4060.20]  So, full disclosure.
[4061.18 --> 4062.60]  HomePod is not...
[4062.60 --> 4065.60]  Is a small part of Apple's revenue.
[4065.74 --> 4067.00]  It's in the other services.
[4067.44 --> 4068.36]  Or in the other section.
[4068.36 --> 4069.52]  Why do you hate Apple so much?
[4069.60 --> 4070.30]  I don't hate Apple.
[4070.42 --> 4071.28]  I hate Apple fanboys.
[4072.30 --> 4073.06]  Apple's pretty dope.
[4073.16 --> 4075.16]  Do you hate Android fanboys?
[4075.78 --> 4076.94]  I hate all fanboys.
[4077.26 --> 4077.60]  Okay.
[4078.34 --> 4079.70]  I like objective people.
[4079.98 --> 4080.34]  Okay.
[4080.68 --> 4081.10]  But...
[4081.10 --> 4085.14]  So, you want Apple to hurt because you dislike the people that like Apple.
[4085.40 --> 4086.44]  No, I don't want Apple to hurt.
[4086.54 --> 4088.36]  I want Apple fanboys to hurt.
[4088.36 --> 4092.24]  Oh, so you're hoping this doesn't really hurt their bottom line.
[4092.56 --> 4092.94]  It won't.
[4092.98 --> 4093.96]  But you're also like...
[4093.96 --> 4096.36]  You don't get your thing for Christmas.
[4096.86 --> 4097.06]  Yeah.
[4097.06 --> 4099.58]  It won't hurt their bottom line because this is one of their other products.
[4100.28 --> 4103.34]  And they get the majority of their revenue from the iPhones and their services.
[4103.92 --> 4105.26]  So, that's going to be minuscule anyway.
[4105.46 --> 4112.34]  But it actually could hurt them in the future because right now, these smart speakers and home
[4112.34 --> 4115.78]  implementations are really starting to gain traction.
[4115.90 --> 4117.76]  Especially since Google Home Mini is out now.
[4117.76 --> 4120.24]  There's a bazillion different types of Amazon Echoes.
[4121.24 --> 4125.10]  I think they're going to be a pretty significant gift this holiday season.
[4125.48 --> 4128.36]  And for Apple to miss that, it's going to be...
[4128.36 --> 4129.02]  That hurts.
[4129.30 --> 4130.54]  And it's hitting mainstream.
[4131.16 --> 4131.66]  That's what I'm saying.
[4131.80 --> 4134.48]  And my grandfather and my mom have one.
[4135.00 --> 4139.00]  And that's not like me forcing it on them.
[4139.04 --> 4141.40]  Be like, use this to support your son or grandson.
[4141.40 --> 4141.82]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[4141.94 --> 4142.74]  This is like...
[4142.74 --> 4144.06]  I got one from my grandpa.
[4144.32 --> 4146.04]  I believe he got one from my mom.
[4146.04 --> 4148.88]  And they both actively use it all the time.
[4149.22 --> 4151.54]  Well, everyone has everything these days.
[4151.70 --> 4152.94]  What are you going to get someone for Christmas?
[4153.12 --> 4154.32]  So, this is totally a thing.
[4154.46 --> 4154.68]  Yeah.
[4154.94 --> 4156.10]  Except the HomePod won't be.
[4156.62 --> 4164.50]  And notably, Google's answer to the HomePod, which is the Google Home Max, looks very similar.
[4164.60 --> 4169.38]  Has similar sound speaker focusing capabilities.
[4169.38 --> 4171.38]  It will be on sale this holiday season.
[4171.92 --> 4172.20]  Oh.
[4172.90 --> 4173.34]  Oh.
[4174.12 --> 4174.40]  Oh.
[4174.84 --> 4175.04]  Oh.
[4175.04 --> 4175.38]  Oh.
[4175.38 --> 4180.04]  And this is just so bad for Apple because even though Siri is the oldest virtual assistant,
[4180.22 --> 4182.78]  it is quite clearly the worst.
[4183.02 --> 4185.56]  And they just need any opportunity they can get.
[4185.56 --> 4185.58]  Really?
[4185.58 --> 4186.54]  It's worse than Cortana?
[4187.42 --> 4187.90]  Hmm.
[4188.10 --> 4189.90]  Or are you only classifying the two?
[4190.16 --> 4190.96]  Cortana's that bad.
[4190.96 --> 4193.20]  No, I was thinking of Bixby as well.
[4193.34 --> 4193.48]  Ah.
[4194.14 --> 4195.20]  Bixby's actually pretty dope.
[4195.70 --> 4196.00]  Really?
[4196.44 --> 4200.68]  It's probably, as a general assistant, it's probably on the level of Siri, but it has
[4200.68 --> 4206.88]  these extra capabilities that we used in our showcase video that let you navigate through
[4206.88 --> 4207.22]  apps.
[4207.36 --> 4209.68]  Like, open this app and go to settings and then change this setting.
[4209.96 --> 4211.22]  Go to my home screen, swipe right.
[4211.28 --> 4212.72]  You can't even do that with the assistant yet.
[4213.06 --> 4216.24]  And I can't wait until you can because it's super sweet to be able to do that.
[4217.70 --> 4218.60]  Cortana, I don't know.
[4218.68 --> 4222.90]  I've actually seen videos on YouTube of people using Cortana to do these, like, kick-ass things
[4222.90 --> 4228.50]  in Excel, which I'd love to program macros by voice, like, using Cortana.
[4228.94 --> 4232.84]  I just, like, can't be bothered because it seems like such an upfront cost.
[4233.48 --> 4237.80]  But anyway, Apple needs any opportunity they can get to try to catch up in this space, and
[4237.80 --> 4239.60]  they're just not getting it.
[4240.48 --> 4242.08]  And eventually, I think it's going to be the end.
[4242.24 --> 4246.64]  I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything positive about Cortana, although that
[4246.64 --> 4250.72]  Excel thing does sound cool, but I haven't had it work in any form in any other way.
[4250.72 --> 4251.42]  So there's that.
[4252.40 --> 4253.52]  Or Bigsby.
[4253.68 --> 4256.16]  I haven't personally used Bigsby, but yeesh.
[4256.84 --> 4258.78]  That dedicated button is rough.
[4259.58 --> 4261.34]  Well, I mean, I didn't say it's perfect.
[4261.48 --> 4263.86]  I'm just saying, like, Siri is just pretty weak.
[4264.24 --> 4264.58]  Yes.
[4265.06 --> 4265.34]  Yeah.
[4265.84 --> 4272.32]  Watching Linus try to use Siri to call someone while we were driving for lunch was hilarious.
[4272.52 --> 4272.92]  Oh, no.
[4273.32 --> 4276.32]  It just couldn't do it.
[4276.80 --> 4278.80]  Like, it was actually hilariously bad.
[4278.80 --> 4280.54]  Well, the Google Assistant's not perfect either.
[4280.54 --> 4281.18]  I'm actually...
[4281.18 --> 4281.24]  No.
[4281.40 --> 4282.10]  I'm disappointed.
[4282.24 --> 4286.02]  You know what Bigsby can do that Assistant doesn't seem to be able to do is chain commands.
[4286.42 --> 4288.64]  Like, on Bigsby, I can say...
[4288.64 --> 4289.48]  Siri can't do that?
[4289.72 --> 4290.76]  Because Google Assistant can.
[4291.14 --> 4291.90]  Google Assistant...
[4291.90 --> 4298.08]  My Google Home, even though I can say the command and say, turn on my TV, and I can tell
[4298.08 --> 4303.48]  it to play a certain video on YouTube, I can't say, turn on the TV and play the latest
[4303.48 --> 4304.56]  Vsauce video on YouTube.
[4305.12 --> 4306.80]  It'll say, I don't know how to do that.
[4306.80 --> 4308.32]  But if I say...
[4308.32 --> 4311.58]  There was one I did yesterday where I...
[4311.58 --> 4312.28]  Bigsby can't do that either.
[4313.50 --> 4315.66]  Well, but Bigsby can change commands.
[4315.80 --> 4324.14]  It can do things like, go to Instagram and post my third latest photo with the caption,
[4324.36 --> 4324.78]  blah, blah, blah.
[4325.52 --> 4325.88]  Okay.
[4326.76 --> 4328.40]  Is that one long command, though?
[4328.40 --> 4328.48]  Yeah.
[4328.66 --> 4328.84]  Yeah.
[4328.94 --> 4333.84]  You can say, go to the settings and open and go to display settings and change the screen
[4333.84 --> 4334.70]  timeout to 10 minutes.
[4336.20 --> 4336.52]  Yeah.
[4336.86 --> 4337.18]  Okay.
[4337.30 --> 4337.74]  Which is cool.
[4339.20 --> 4342.96]  But there was a command I issued yesterday to my Google Assistant that I...
[4342.96 --> 4346.52]  It was two commands, and I put them this way, and it said, I don't know how to do that.
[4346.58 --> 4349.96]  And then I rephrased it, the same commands in a different order, and then it did it.
[4349.96 --> 4354.00]  Like, I wonder if that's part of it, because I use Google Assistant for everything, and
[4354.00 --> 4358.80]  I play specific songs with it within...
[4358.80 --> 4362.40]  Like, it has to open an app and then find the specific song and whatnot all the time,
[4362.44 --> 4363.44]  which is two different steps.
[4364.52 --> 4366.24]  Well, that's actually...
[4366.24 --> 4367.58]  Open Google Play Music and play whatever song.
[4367.58 --> 4372.14]  That's actually one, because you can't say, open Google Play Music.
[4372.26 --> 4373.24]  Yeah, I believe I can.
[4373.62 --> 4376.76]  I know that I can't say, hey, open YouTube.
[4377.74 --> 4379.02]  On Google Home.
[4379.46 --> 4381.08]  I can't say, open YouTube on the TV.
[4381.26 --> 4383.80]  I have to say, open YouTube and play Linus Tech Tips on the TV.
[4383.94 --> 4386.06]  Yeah, but then I don't personally...
[4386.06 --> 4389.58]  This is what we should probably move on, but I don't personally think that's a huge point,
[4389.66 --> 4391.30]  because Bigsby isn't in a home device.
[4391.44 --> 4391.72]  Is it?
[4392.36 --> 4393.22]  Not that I know of.
[4393.22 --> 4394.52]  Yeah, so I don't know.
[4395.40 --> 4395.76]  Anyways.
[4397.46 --> 4398.82]  Amazon Echo is coming to Canada.
[4399.20 --> 4400.54]  Linus will be so stoked.
[4400.86 --> 4402.54]  We can finally start reviewing them and stuff.
[4403.24 --> 4403.52]  Yes.
[4403.60 --> 4404.34]  Do you know that story?
[4404.86 --> 4405.16]  No.
[4405.38 --> 4406.10]  We got an Echo.
[4406.64 --> 4407.60]  Oh, you tried?
[4407.82 --> 4408.46]  I tried.
[4408.64 --> 4410.02]  Dude, I tried on the Fire TV.
[4410.20 --> 4412.80]  I brought it home on a weekend and stuff, and I was like, the interface...
[4412.80 --> 4413.70]  Like, this is borked.
[4413.86 --> 4414.62]  Yeah, basically.
[4414.62 --> 4418.28]  I did tech support calls and all this junk, and it's like, yeah, you're just not supposed
[4418.28 --> 4418.94]  to be using that.
[4419.02 --> 4419.28]  Yeah.
[4419.68 --> 4420.26]  Same thing happened to you?
[4420.26 --> 4421.34]  And you can, like...
[4421.34 --> 4422.90]  With mine, it was like, you can't use it at all.
[4422.96 --> 4424.22]  It wouldn't even allow itself to set up.
[4424.42 --> 4427.64]  So I, like, VPNed my router, so that when it connected to the Wi-Fi, it thought it was in
[4427.64 --> 4427.98]  America.
[4428.14 --> 4428.86]  And I was like, okay, cool.
[4429.44 --> 4430.02]  And then...
[4430.02 --> 4430.16]  Hi.
[4430.48 --> 4430.68]  Yeah.
[4430.68 --> 4431.86]  Oh, hi.
[4432.08 --> 4432.36]  Hi.
[4432.42 --> 4433.02]  Linus says hi.
[4433.32 --> 4435.16]  They're going to be all salty that you're not here now.
[4435.92 --> 4436.50]  They're salty?
[4436.90 --> 4437.50]  Well, they're going to be...
[4437.50 --> 4440.82]  Well, now they know that I'm on the WAN show even though you're in the building.
[4441.50 --> 4442.58]  What does it mean?
[4444.12 --> 4445.34]  Linus is quitting video.
[4446.48 --> 4448.04]  Someone in the chat said Linus is fired.
[4448.04 --> 4452.94]  He's just going to drive his multiple Tesla Roadsters from now on that he drives around in
[4452.94 --> 4454.08]  his Tesla semi-truck.
[4454.08 --> 4455.34]  Um...
[4455.34 --> 4457.42]  What were we talking about?
[4458.26 --> 4459.18]  We were talking about Amazon.
[4459.88 --> 4460.46]  Right, yeah.
[4460.56 --> 4462.08]  So we got one for a review.
[4462.32 --> 4465.68]  I had to VPN my router to even freaking make the thing work at all.
[4465.90 --> 4469.14]  And then it couldn't do almost anything because...
[4469.14 --> 4469.74]  I mean, Canada.
[4469.90 --> 4471.74]  And it doesn't know any of the stuff for up here.
[4471.84 --> 4473.24]  And I was just like, oh, okay.
[4473.24 --> 4479.60]  And then we sent it to a person, I'm not going to say who, who was in America to do a review
[4479.60 --> 4484.34]  on it and like write the notes for the review for us.
[4484.48 --> 4486.58]  And then we never heard from them again.
[4486.90 --> 4487.74]  Now it's gone.
[4489.02 --> 4489.86]  Well, it's here now.
[4489.94 --> 4494.02]  And apparently it's going to speak Canadian English with a Canadian English accent.
[4496.70 --> 4499.44]  So Eastern then, I guess?
[4499.44 --> 4499.96]  No, I don't.
[4500.52 --> 4501.68]  It's going to say a boot?
[4501.68 --> 4501.72]  A boot?
[4502.16 --> 4503.00]  Like, I don't know.
[4503.34 --> 4503.60]  What?
[4503.60 --> 4504.12]  What's the difference?
[4504.50 --> 4505.16]  What's it going to say?
[4505.46 --> 4506.22]  Yeah, open that, eh?
[4506.42 --> 4508.02]  It's going to say sorry instead of sorry.
[4508.26 --> 4508.60]  Sorry.
[4508.84 --> 4509.20]  All right.
[4509.26 --> 4512.18]  It's not going to say like, I don't know what the Americans say.
[4512.20 --> 4512.48]  That's weird.
[4513.16 --> 4515.32]  I guess someone in the chat said Zed.
[4515.42 --> 4516.10]  That makes sense.
[4516.46 --> 4516.94]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[4517.46 --> 4522.14]  It's mostly that we pronounce O's like O's and they pronounce O's like A's a lot.
[4522.54 --> 4523.34]  Like I'm sorry.
[4524.12 --> 4525.50]  And what's another one I've been noticing?
[4525.68 --> 4525.86]  Sorry.
[4526.10 --> 4526.30]  Yeah.
[4526.44 --> 4526.68]  Yeah.
[4526.88 --> 4528.90]  But anyway, it won't speak French.
[4529.84 --> 4530.20]  Yet.
[4530.20 --> 4531.70]  I don't care.
[4532.56 --> 4533.40]  Neither do I.
[4533.40 --> 4534.16]  Because I don't speak French.
[4534.24 --> 4535.14]  People in the East will.
[4535.14 --> 4536.94]  Apparently 20% of our population does.
[4537.04 --> 4537.34]  Yeah.
[4537.72 --> 4537.98]  Yeah.
[4538.56 --> 4538.84]  Well.
[4540.32 --> 4541.84]  Like as their main language.
[4541.94 --> 4542.56]  It'll be coming.
[4542.70 --> 4543.46]  French will come.
[4543.60 --> 4546.34]  I bet you more than 25% of our population can speak French.
[4546.44 --> 4550.38]  I bet you 20% of our population speaks French as their main language.
[4550.90 --> 4552.30]  No, it's less than that actually.
[4552.54 --> 4552.76]  Really?
[4552.76 --> 4554.88]  I didn't put it in the notes, but I read it earlier.
[4555.64 --> 4558.32]  But this isn't actually the first country.
[4558.42 --> 4561.70]  I thought we would be maybe the second country that Echo was in, but we're not.
[4562.00 --> 4564.68]  They went to India a month ago and Japan last week.
[4564.80 --> 4566.70]  And presumably it's not English and India and Japan.
[4567.38 --> 4567.54]  Yeah.
[4567.54 --> 4568.98]  So get on it, French.
[4569.78 --> 4570.40]  Come on.
[4570.54 --> 4571.66]  There's going to be some deals too.
[4571.78 --> 4576.82]  The Echo is going to be 99 Canadian pesos instead of a regular 130.
[4577.16 --> 4580.04]  The Echo Dot is going to be 50 bucks instead of 70.
[4580.22 --> 4583.40]  And the Echo Plus is going to be 170 instead of 200.
[4583.40 --> 4583.72]  DaryuBe.
[4585.04 --> 4585.88]  DaryuBe.
[4586.12 --> 4587.18]  That's what it's going to say.
[4587.90 --> 4589.26]  You issued a command.
[4589.70 --> 4593.50]  It's going to execute the command and say, DaryuBe, DaryuBe.
[4593.80 --> 4598.92]  If you tell it, like, I'm going to go hike Mount Everest, it'll be like, good luck, big shoots.
[4600.00 --> 4601.14]  I've never even heard that one.
[4601.52 --> 4601.70]  Really?
[4602.34 --> 4602.66]  Okay.
[4604.14 --> 4604.54]  Anyways.
[4605.86 --> 4606.44]  Wancho's over.
[4606.98 --> 4607.28]  Yeah.
[4607.50 --> 4607.90]  That's it.
[4609.74 --> 4610.14]  Bye.
[4610.42 --> 4612.96]  If you want to see a cool charity stream, tune in tomorrow.
[4613.40 --> 4615.22]  I'll probably start at noon.
[4616.30 --> 4617.32]  Are you going to be laser looking?
[4617.78 --> 4618.04]  No.
[4618.38 --> 4618.86]  Try it.
[4618.96 --> 4621.30]  I will try it, but I'm not going to do it for the whole charity stream.
[4621.30 --> 4621.42]  Try it.
[4622.02 --> 4623.98]  Man, it's crazy how much it changes everything.
[4624.38 --> 4625.52]  Everything's super blue.
[4625.66 --> 4626.22]  That's cool, hey?
[4626.52 --> 4626.72]  Yeah.
[4626.84 --> 4627.70]  Dabu-dee, dabu-dee.
[4627.88 --> 4628.62]  Dabu-dee.
[4628.80 --> 4632.54]  We should actually submit this round show to an editor so when you put these on at the very end,
[4632.54 --> 4634.22]  it does a crazy effect.
[4634.42 --> 4635.20]  It's super annoying.
[4635.20 --> 4636.66]  Just for the people that made it to the end.
[4637.06 --> 4638.34]  Now all these people are saying laser look.
[4638.54 --> 4640.86]  Anyways, come by, check out the charity stream if you want.
[4640.96 --> 4641.62]  It's going to be awesome.
[4641.62 --> 4644.72]  I don't know what the heck Jake is trying to say, but it's fine.
[4645.04 --> 4645.98]  I think he called me an a-hole.
[4646.02 --> 4646.84]  He's irrelevant.
[4647.82 --> 4648.32]  Oh, harsh.
[4648.54 --> 4649.16]  It's okay.
[4649.28 --> 4651.38]  Oh, that's the most harsh thing an influencer can say to you.
[4651.62 --> 4656.50]  Well, I was dropping a reference back to the iDubbsRiceGum kind of deal.
[4656.60 --> 4657.38]  I don't know what that is.
[4658.08 --> 4659.16]  I'm going home!
[4659.16 --> 4659.72]  Wow.
[4660.06 --> 4661.18]  Anyways, bye!
[4661.48 --> 4662.30]  Thanks for watching!
[4662.46 --> 4662.96]  Bye-bye!
[4663.20 --> 4665.90]  Charity stream, twitch.tv slash luke underscore LAFR.
[4666.10 --> 4666.48]  Show up.
[4666.84 --> 4668.16]  Don't get money to kids or just watch.
[4668.48 --> 4669.02]  Actually do it.
[4669.06 --> 4669.88]  It's going to be lots of cool games.
[4670.00 --> 4670.78]  Retro stuff.
[4671.32 --> 4671.56]  Yeah.
[4671.98 --> 4672.22]  Boom.
[4672.88 --> 4673.74]  It worked!
[4674.74 --> 4676.70]  What did you write on that napkin that you crumbled up?
[4679.70 --> 4680.06]  Ah.
[4680.06 --> 4682.04]  We're not announcing on this show.
[4682.04 --> 4691.48]  Laser Luke looks at you and makes you puke.
[4692.38 --> 4695.92]  Apparently I'm also supposed to say discord.gg slash LTT.
[4697.30 --> 4697.78]  Yeah.
[4698.02 --> 4699.06]  It hasn't ended yet.
[4699.16 --> 4705.20]  We were just doing the thank you to iFixit and thank you to Mack Weldon and thank you to Zotac.
[4707.94 --> 4708.80]  So, yeah.
[4708.98 --> 4710.16]  I guess check out that Discord.
[4710.16 --> 4712.58]  We actually have an official Discord now.
[4712.80 --> 4713.80]  So, check it out.
[4714.16 --> 4716.54]  If you link your forum account, you get access right away.
[4717.10 --> 4719.48]  If you don't, I think you have to wait 24 hours or something.
[4719.66 --> 4720.86]  So, link your forum account.
[4721.28 --> 4721.74]  Heck yeah.
[4721.92 --> 4722.42]  Sounds good.
[4723.06 --> 4723.50]  See you later.
[4723.76 --> 4724.94]  Use the LaserJame emote.
[4725.52 --> 4726.12]  Is that a thing?
[4726.22 --> 4726.54]  Yeah!
[4727.18 --> 4727.54]  Nice!